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##*Stakeholder meeting - Quinn reported that he attended the stakeholders meeting last week at the Cleveland Clinic with Jaffe, Hammond, McDougall and Van Hentenryck.  The stakeholders were asked to provide us with their thoughts on what problems HL7 could solve for them; what polices we must change and should adopt, etc,; and what our strategic direction should be for the next 5 years. We received a general comment from many of these stakeholders that they were much more educated about HL7 after this meeting and that they would be more supportive of the organization moving forward.
 
##*Stakeholder meeting - Quinn reported that he attended the stakeholders meeting last week at the Cleveland Clinic with Jaffe, Hammond, McDougall and Van Hentenryck.  The stakeholders were asked to provide us with their thoughts on what problems HL7 could solve for them; what polices we must change and should adopt, etc,; and what our strategic direction should be for the next 5 years. We received a general comment from many of these stakeholders that they were much more educated about HL7 after this meeting and that they would be more supportive of the organization moving forward.
 
##*Tools initiative- Quinn reported that he spoke with Jane Curry last week regarding the tooling initiative.  Quinn will attend some of the tooling meetings next week in Toronto. The goal is to understand the OHT and their major stakeholders. This group is focused on developing tools for internal development and tools for development of Implementation Guides.   
 
##*Tools initiative- Quinn reported that he spoke with Jane Curry last week regarding the tooling initiative.  Quinn will attend some of the tooling meetings next week in Toronto. The goal is to understand the OHT and their major stakeholders. This group is focused on developing tools for internal development and tools for development of Implementation Guides.   
##*McCaslin's Appeal on Implementation guide for V2.5.1 – McCaslin reported that three weeks ago at HITSP panel meeting, there was a gathering of several people interested in the resolving his issue.  All agreed that the UCUM standard would be a pilot, and they further agreed that the suggested resolution would be to change the wording in this document from UCUM is required to UCUM is recommended. Quinn suggested that we make this change and propose it back to the committee.  Kreisler noted that this would be a substantive change that would require another ballot.  This will be taken up off line. If others on the call have ideas on how we can deal with this issue, let Quinn and others know.   
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##*McCaslin's Appeal on Implementation guide for V2.5.1 – McCaslin reported that three weeks ago at HITSP panel meeting, there was a gathering of several people interested in resolving this issue.  All agreed that the UCUM standard would be a pilot, and they further agreed that the suggested resolution would be to change the wording in this document from UCUM is required to UCUM is recommended. Quinn suggested that we make this change and propose it back to the committee.  Kreisler noted that this would be a substantive change that would require another ballot.  This will be taken up off line. If others on the call have ideas on how we can deal with this issue, let Quinn and others know.   
## ARB report - Mead
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## ARB report - Charlie Mead was not on the call.
## Affiliates Report - McCay/Oemig
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## Affiliates Report - Frank Oemig was not on the call.
## Domain Experts - Case  reported that they had their call.  Issues around ARB were discussed.  Looking to find a domain experts rep to nomination for position on ARB.  Is there some description of ARB responsibilities that can be shared with those who are interested. ACTION ITEM:  put out a notice that ARB is in process of reformingC Mead will chair, focus on ARB taking over resp for managing architecture of HL7.  Time requirements will likely be an hour/week. Those who are interested can contact Quinn until Charlie Mead returns.  Van Hentenryck to send an e-mail out to the co-chairs announcing Charlie Mead’s appointment, time commitment, skills, etc.  Other issues from SD:  what is the exact process for moving projects forward through he publishing calendar. (capture this as an issue)P&P regarding DSTUs and what is the relationship between DSTU progression and normative. Need process for how this works. Quinn explained the current process.  There are some ballot items such as DAMs, etc which don’t make sense to publish a DSTUs. Ballot lifecycle needs some work.
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## Domain Experts - Jim Case  reported that the steering division convened their call.  Issues around ARB were discussed and they are seeking to find a domain experts representative to nominate for this position on ARB.  Is there a description of ARB responsibilities that can be shared with those who are interested. '''''ACTION ITEM'''''Van Hentenryck will distribute a notice to all co-chairs to communicate that ARB is in process of reforming, that C Mead will chair the group, that the focus of the ARB taking over responsibiity for managing HL7's architecture.  Time requirements will likely be an hour/week. Those who are interested can contact Quinn until Charlie Mead returns.  Other issues that emerged from SD are that there there is confusion as to the exact process for moving projects forward through he publishing calendar. (capture this as an issue) and we need P&P regarding DSTUs and the relationship between DSTU progression and normative standards. Quinn explained the current DSTU process.  There are some ballot items such as DAMs, etc. which don’t make sense to publish a DSTUs. The Ballot lifecycle also needs some work.
## Foundation & Technology - Singureanu reported there was no quorum. There is a great deal of confusion with project lifecycle.  Need to have review/education of the process. Need discussion/form to clarify this issue. Project initiative/approval is going to be simpler than what we’ve had in the past.  Need to set time aside as WGM, conference calls, etc.  Need more eyes looking at the process. Take this offline and progress it. Regarding tooling they have gotten free enterprise architect licenses from Spark systems for their UML tool. Might try to get some free licenses from IBM. Quinn noted that part of the tooling initiative is to try to get the IBM piece for free.  
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## Foundation & Technology - Singureanu reported that they did not reach quorum on their steering division call. She reported that there is a great deal of confusion with the c/form to clarify this issue. Project initiative/approval is going to be simpler than what we’ve had in the past.  Need to set time aside as WGM, conference calls, etc.  Need more eyes looking at the process. Take this offline and progress it. Regarding tooling they have gotten free enterprise architect licenses from Spark systems for their UML tool. Might try to get some free licenses from IBM. Quinn noted that part of the tooling initiative is to try to get the IBM piece for free.  
 
## Structure & Semanic Design - Beebe reported that the SD met and they have a number of project scope documents being reviewed the group.   
 
## Structure & Semanic Design - Beebe reported that the SD met and they have a number of project scope documents being reviewed the group.   
 
## Technical & Support Services - McCaslin
 
## Technical & Support Services - McCaslin

Revision as of 17:56, 8 November 2007

TSC - Technical Steering Committee

Monday, November 5th, 2007 11:00 AM (US Eastern Time, GMT -5)

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Attendance

Expected

  • Chair: Charlie McCay
  • CTO: John Quinn
  • Domain Experts: Jim Case (primary), Austin Kreisler (alternate)
  • Foundation & Technology: Ioana Singureanu (primary), Woody Beeler (alternate)
  • Structure & Semantic Design: Calvin Beebe (primary), Gregg Seppala (alternate)
  • Technical & Support Services: Ken McCaslin (primary), Helen Stevens Love (alternate)
  • Affiliate: Frank Oemig, Charlie McCay
  • ARB Chair:
  • HQ: Karen Van Hentenryck

invited

  • Charles Jaffe (CE); Chuck Meyer (HL7 Chair); Ed Hammond (HL7 Chair Elect)

Apologies

  • ARB Chair: Charlie Mead

Agenda

  1. (10 min) Meeting Admin
    1. Roll Call - Charlie McCay, John Quinn, Ken McCaslin, Ioana Singureanu, Jim Case, Calvin Beebe, Austin Kreisler and Karen Van Hentenryck were in attendance.
    2. Accept Agenda - Jane Foard’s publishing issues were suggested as an addition to today's agenda. The Project initiation process needs discussion/clarification either today or on a future call. With these changes, the agenda was accepted.
    3. Approve Minutes ConCall-20071029 - MOTION by Kriesler; seconded by Case: To approve the minutes as printed. Motion passed unanimously.
    4. Approve Minutes ConCall-20071022 - MOTION by McCaslin; seconded by Quinn: To approve the minutes as printed. Motion passed unanimously.
    5. Approve Minutes ConCall-20071015 - MOTION by Case, seconded by McCaslin: To accept the minutes as printed. Motion passed unanimously.
    6. Approve Minutes ConCall-20071008 - MOTION by Kreisler; seconded by McCaslin: To accept minutes as printed. Motion passed unanimously.
    7. Quorum and process for minutes approval## - McCay expressed concern regarding the groups' difficulty reaching quorum on recent calls. McCay suggests that TSC members review the minutes when they are available, with comments/corrections being posted to the list. If you cannot participate in the upcoming call, please let the TSC members know if you've reviewed the minutes and support them, so they can be approved in a timely manner
  2. (10 min) Standing Committee Reports
    1. CEO Report - Jaffe was not on the call
    2. CTO Report - Quinn reported on the following items:
      • Progress regarding the ARB - The final slate will be worked out with inut from Charlie Mead when he returens from vacation.
      • Publication problems – Quinn has reviewed the issues with Jane Foard. The biggest issue appears to be with deprecated events. Quinn suggested a proposed policy that essentially conveys that the organization does not support deprecated events and if someone wishes to use them, they should refer to earlier versions of the standard whether they are supported. The publishing committee support Quinn’s policy, but Frank Oemig has raised some objections. the publishing committee is hashing out the details with Frank and the other editors. ACTION ITEM: When 2.6 is finalized, it will be loaded to the web site and its availability announced to the membership.
      • Stakeholder meeting - Quinn reported that he attended the stakeholders meeting last week at the Cleveland Clinic with Jaffe, Hammond, McDougall and Van Hentenryck. The stakeholders were asked to provide us with their thoughts on what problems HL7 could solve for them; what polices we must change and should adopt, etc,; and what our strategic direction should be for the next 5 years. We received a general comment from many of these stakeholders that they were much more educated about HL7 after this meeting and that they would be more supportive of the organization moving forward.
      • Tools initiative- Quinn reported that he spoke with Jane Curry last week regarding the tooling initiative. Quinn will attend some of the tooling meetings next week in Toronto. The goal is to understand the OHT and their major stakeholders. This group is focused on developing tools for internal development and tools for development of Implementation Guides.
      • McCaslin's Appeal on Implementation guide for V2.5.1 – McCaslin reported that three weeks ago at HITSP panel meeting, there was a gathering of several people interested in resolving this issue. All agreed that the UCUM standard would be a pilot, and they further agreed that the suggested resolution would be to change the wording in this document from UCUM is required to UCUM is recommended. Quinn suggested that we make this change and propose it back to the committee. Kreisler noted that this would be a substantive change that would require another ballot. This will be taken up off line. If others on the call have ideas on how we can deal with this issue, let Quinn and others know.
    3. ARB report - Charlie Mead was not on the call.
    4. Affiliates Report - Frank Oemig was not on the call.
    5. Domain Experts - Jim Case reported that the steering division convened their call. Issues around ARB were discussed and they are seeking to find a domain experts representative to nominate for this position on ARB. Is there a description of ARB responsibilities that can be shared with those who are interested. ACTION ITEM: Van Hentenryck will distribute a notice to all co-chairs to communicate that ARB is in process of reforming, that C Mead will chair the group, that the focus of the ARB taking over responsibiity for managing HL7's architecture. Time requirements will likely be an hour/week. Those who are interested can contact Quinn until Charlie Mead returns. Other issues that emerged from SD are that there there is confusion as to the exact process for moving projects forward through he publishing calendar. (capture this as an issue) and we need P&P regarding DSTUs and the relationship between DSTU progression and normative standards. Quinn explained the current DSTU process. There are some ballot items such as DAMs, etc. which don’t make sense to publish a DSTUs. The Ballot lifecycle also needs some work.
    6. Foundation & Technology - Singureanu reported that they did not reach quorum on their steering division call. She reported that there is a great deal of confusion with the c/form to clarify this issue. Project initiative/approval is going to be simpler than what we’ve had in the past. Need to set time aside as WGM, conference calls, etc. Need more eyes looking at the process. Take this offline and progress it. Regarding tooling they have gotten free enterprise architect licenses from Spark systems for their UML tool. Might try to get some free licenses from IBM. Quinn noted that part of the tooling initiative is to try to get the IBM piece for free.
    7. Structure & Semanic Design - Beebe reported that the SD met and they have a number of project scope documents being reviewed the group.
    8. Technical & Support Services - McCaslin
  3. (5 mins) The SOA TC charter MOTION by McCaslin; seconded by Kreisler”: To approve the SOA TC charter. Motion approved unanimously.
  4. (10 mins) Project Services Committee - McCaslin reported that the SD did not have a meeting this week. But he reached out to MnM and ARB to ensure that as he is forming mission/charter that he is including the appropriate items. ACTION ITEM: Mccaslin will present this mission/scope to the SD and presnet on the next TSC meeting
  5. (10 mins) OHF tooling initiative Quinn
  6. (15 min) issue review and processing - McCay reported that we are getting a Gforge tracker established. The account information has been send to Wilfred Bonney (staff) who is setting up the project. Will hopefully be in place next week. Try to get deadline from Wilfred and publish it to the TSC admin list. Try to get a summary of the Jane Foard issue out to the TSCadmin list
    1. Status of gForge Implementation - Singureanu
    2. tsc issue review process
    3. looking at current issues
  1. (5 min) Other Business

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