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  Monday, March 17th, 2008 11:00 AM (US Eastern Time, GMT -5)
 
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#'''''(5 min)'' Meeting Admin'''
 
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##Roll Call - Quorum was established with the following individual participating on the call: Austin Kreisler, John Quinn, Gregg Seppala, Woody Beeler, Ken McCaslin, Ioana Singureanu, Charlie McCay, Freida Hall, Charlie Mead, and Karen Van Hentenryck, Chuck Meyer
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##Roll Call - Quorum was established with the following individuals participating on the call: Austin Kreisler, John Quinn, Gregg Seppala, Woody Beeler, Ken McCaslin, Ioana Singureanu, Charlie McCay, Freida Hall, Charlie Mead, Karen Van Hentenryck and Chuck Meyer
 
##Accept Agenda - Given that Charlie Mead has another commitment and that Freida Hall joined the call, the ArB report and the project initiation process will be moved to beginning of the agenda.
 
##Accept Agenda - Given that Charlie Mead has another commitment and that Freida Hall joined the call, the ArB report and the project initiation process will be moved to beginning of the agenda.
 
##Approve Minutes from [[concall-20080310]] MOTION by McCalin:  To approve the minutes; seconded by Charlie Mead.  The motion was unanimously approved.  
 
##Approve Minutes from [[concall-20080310]] MOTION by McCalin:  To approve the minutes; seconded by Charlie Mead.  The motion was unanimously approved.  
 
#'''''(20 min)'' Standing Committee Reports/Approvals'''
 
#'''''(20 min)'' Standing Committee Reports/Approvals'''
## ArB Report- [http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/docman/view.php/52/113/ArB080316.doc]Charlie Mead indicated that the ArB has 4 projects and one item to report on.  Three or the four projects have been taken on by the ARB, and the fourth is being supervised by the ArB. The projects are as follows: 1) Re-organization project – involves defining boundaries and responsibilites of core committees and how they intersect with the responsibilities of the ArB. Grahame Grieve is hte project lead and will submit the project scope.  2) Dynamic Model project - this involves clarification of what the ArB believes is its responsibilites regarding the Dynamic Model.  The ArB won’t specify the Dynamic Model per se but will specify requirements and framework. John Koisch leading this project, and the current plan is that the ArB will take SOA TC proposed framework as a strawman.  3) Business Model RFP - this will require asking Board to approve the funding necessary to write the requirements for the RFP and to fund the work itself.  ArB will write requirements for the RFP.  This project is being led by Charlie Mead. 4) Ballot quality project – the ArB is sponsoring this project.  The ArB has been asking this Ballot Quality group to provide them with a report.  Charlie hopes to receive a report and provide more information on this project on next week’s TSC call. Regarding the DAM definition (action item from a few weeks ago), the definition has been given to John Quinn.  Ioana Singureanu asked if they had taken a look at the latest HDF prior to developing the definition. The ArB felt that the HDF was about the content of the DAM but not the definition but the two do need to be in synch.  
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## ArB Report- [http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/docman/view.php/52/113/ArB080316.doc]Charlie Mead indicated that the ArB has 4 projects and one item on which to report.  Three of the four projects have been taken on by the ARB, and the fourth is being supervised by the ArB. The projects are as follows: 1) Re-organization project – involves defining boundaries and responsibilites of core committees and how they intersect with the responsibilities of the ArB. Grahame Grieve is the project lead and will submit the project scope.  2) Dynamic Model project - this involves clarification of what the ArB believes its responsibilites to be regarding the Dynamic Model.  The ArB won’t specify the Dynamic Model per se but will specify requirements and a framework. John Koisch is the project lead. The current plan is to use the SOA TC proposed framework as a strawman.  3) Business Model RFP - this will require asking the Board to approve the funding necessary to write the requirements for the RFP and to fund the work itself.  ArB will write requirements for the RFP.  This project is being led by Charlie Mead. 4) Ballot quality project – the ArB is sponsoring this project and has asked the Ballot Quality group to provide a report on their progress.  Charlie hopes to receive a report and provide more information on this project on the next TSC call. Regarding the DAM definition (action item from a few weeks ago), it has been given to John Quinn.  Ioana Singureanu asked if they had reviewed the latest HDF prior to developing the definition. The ArB felt that the HDF was about the content of the DAM but not the definition but the two do need to be in synch.  
## Project initiation process and template - [http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/tracker/download.php/52/313/435/448/HL7%20Project%20Scope%20Statement_v1.2.10.zip]McCaslin reported that he'd sent an email to the list with the latest versions of these documents. MOTION by McCaslin: To approve the initiation process document; seconded by Singureanu. Regarding the scope statement document, Hall noted that project services separated the template from the instructions at the suggestion of one of the pilot users.  Kreisler suggested that they terms SIG and TC to work groups.  After some discussion the group agreed that this change would be made. MOTION by McCalin: That the TSC appprove the project scope template document with the suggested change; seconded by Quinn.  Motion passed unanimously.  ACTION ITEM: Quinn and McCaslin to draft motion on transitioning to the term work group and its implementation, including the semantics of the term (i.e., 2 words, caps or not, etc)  
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## Project initiation process and template - [http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/tracker/download.php/52/313/435/448/HL7%20Project%20Scope%20Statement_v1.2.10.zip]McCaslin reported that he'd sent an email to the list with the latest versions of these documents. MOTION by McCaslin: To approve the initiation process document; seconded by Singureanu. Regarding the scope statement document, Hall noted that project services separated the template from the instructions at the suggestion of one of the pilot users.  Kreisler suggested that the terms SIG and TC be changed to work groups.  After some discussion the group agreed that the change would be made. MOTION by McCaslin: That the TSC appprove the project scope template document with the suggested change; seconded by Quinn.  Motion passed unanimously.  ACTION ITEM: Quinn and McCaslin will a draft motion on transitioning to the term work group and its implementation, including the semantics of the term (i.e., 2 words, caps or not, etc).
## CTO Report - Quinn  reported that he email the CTO report to the list prior to the call. He highlighted the following areas:  
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## CTO Report - Quinn  reported that he emailed the CTO report to the list prior to the call. He highlighted the following areas:  
##*NHS will contribute funds to the tooling budget for this year. Their contribution increases the available fund by about 33%, which is very good news.  
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##*NHS will contribute funds to the tooling budget for this year. Their contribution increases the available funding by about 33%, which is very good news.  
 
##*Ed Hammond and Chuck Jaffe have determined that tooling is Quinn’s highest objective for the year.
 
##*Ed Hammond and Chuck Jaffe have determined that tooling is Quinn’s highest objective for the year.
 
##*Quinn will participate in a meeting this week with Hammond, Jaffe, Quinn, McDougall and Van Hentenryck to finalize Roadmap document.  
 
##*Quinn will participate in a meeting this week with Hammond, Jaffe, Quinn, McDougall and Van Hentenryck to finalize Roadmap document.  
##*ISO projects are up and running but political issues that are impeding progress. Hammond is working on political issues, which revolve around IHC and ICSR.   
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##*ISO projects are up and running but political issues are impeding progress. Hammond is working on resolving the political issues, which revolve around IHC and ICSR.   
##*HL7 Representation on HITSP committees - Quinn is still seeking HL7 representation on a number of HITSP committees and project.  ACTION ITEM: Steering Division co-chairs ask their work groups for names of individuals who could represent HL7 on these committees, with feedback being delivered to Quinn prior to next week's call.  
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##*HL7 Representation on HITSP committees - Quinn is still seeking HL7 representation on a number of HITSP committees and project.  ACTION ITEM: Steering Division co-chairs will query  their work groups for names of individuals who could represent HL7 on these committees, with feedback being delivered to Quinn prior to the next call.  
## Affiliates Report - nothing to report
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## Affiliates Report - Nothing to report
 
## Domain Experts - Nothing to report
 
## Domain Experts - Nothing to report
## Foundation & Technology - Singureanu reported that the steering division is still working to track down missing vocabulary references.  At present, they've found 795 references to vocabulary references that are missing.  Vocabulary references were left null in many places and in these instances need to be addressed by the committees. There are some typographical error, some are missing all together, some have been approved but not yet reflected in the repository. The VA has volunteered resources to assist with this project.  Committee need to know which attributes need to have vocabulary added.  Beeler had committed to this and has been working on on it for the last several days. ACTION ITEM: Singureanu will update this issue against the TSC Issue Tracker.   
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## Foundation & Technology - Singureanu reported that the Foundation & Technology steering division is still working to track down missing vocabulary references.  At present, they've found 795 references to vocabulary that are missing.  Vocabulary references were left null in many places and in these instances need to be addressed by the committees. There are some typographical error, some are missing all together, some have been approved but not yet reflected in the repository, etc. The VA has volunteered resources to assist with this project.  Committees need to know which attributes need to have vocabulary added.  Beeler had committed to this and has been working on it for the last several days. ACTION ITEM: Singureanu will update this issue against the TSC Issue Tracker.   
## Structure & Semantic Design - Seppala noted they hadn’t met, not email traffic on the list.  DSTU on Patient Admin and they have some changes they want the CTO to say are non-substantive.  They’ve posted a formal request to the TSC Issue tracker [http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=399&group_id=52&atid=313].  ACTION ITEM:  Quinn will take a look at this and send a recommendation to the McCay.  TSC agreement that Quinn and McCay will make the decision
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## Structure & Semantic Design - Seppala noted the Structure & Semantic Design Steering Division hadn’t met, nor has there been email traffic on the listservThere is a DSTU on Patient Admin and they have some changes they want the CTO to say are non-substantive.  They’ve posted a formal request to the TSC Issue tracker for these items.[http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=399&group_id=52&atid=313].  ACTION ITEM:  Quinn will take at Seppala's request at and send a recommendation to McCay.  The TSC members agreed to empower Quinn and McCay to make the decision regarding this item.
## Technical & Support Services - McCaslin noted the Technical and Support Steering Division convened a call on Thurs, March 13.  They had 3 motions, 2 of which have been accepted earlier in the agenda.  McCaslin noted that the documents are on the steering divisions web page under documents.  ACTION ITEM: Van Hentenryck will post these under the process portion of the TSC wiki page.
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## Technical & Support Services - McCaslin noted the Technical and Support Steering Division convened a call on Thurs, March 13.  They had 3 motions, 2 of which have been dealt with earlier in the agenda.  McCaslin noted that the documents are on the steering divisions web page under documents.  ACTION ITEM: Van Hentenryck will post these under the process portion of the TSC wiki page.
 
#'''''(30 min)'' Discussion topics'''
 
#'''''(30 min)'' Discussion topics'''
#*Version 2.7 as DSTU or not - McCay McCay noted there had been a discussion on this topic at the Technical & Support Steering Division call.  McCaslin noted that the steering division felt that v2 documents are, for the most part, maintenance and/or scope changes and that requiring a DSTU period in would add turnaround time for development. The Transition Task Force introduced the notion that every new project was to be published as a DSTU unless it is infrastructure. The Steering Division feels that publication as a DSTU should not be a requirement for any maintenance release project. Quinn noted that the DSTU issue emerged not only from the Transition Task Force but from the Stakeholder meeting as well. Beeler suggests that recommendation to Board would be to consider qualification of this consideration to mean new standards, not new standards work. McCay suggests that the TSC is empowered to make this sort of decision. MOTION by McCaslin:  That the DSTU requirements for V2 be eliminated as it is a maintenance release.  Meyer noted that there is no minimum time requirement for DSTU. V2.7 will be balloted directly as a normative ballot (without a review ballot).  If the editors/content providers wish to ballot V2.7 as a for comments document, they are welcome to do that.
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#*Version 2.7 as DSTU or not - McCay McCay noted there had been a discussion on this topic at the Technical & Support Steering Division call.  McCaslin noted that the steering division felt that v2 documents are, for the most part, maintenance and/or scope changes and that requiring a DSTU period would add turnaround time for development. The Transition Task Force introduced the notion that every new project, except infrastructure documents, was to be published as a DSTU. The Steering Division feels that publication as a DSTU should not be a requirement for any maintenance release project. Quinn noted that the DSTU issue emerged not only from the Transition Task Force but from the Stakeholder meeting as well. Beeler suggests that recommendation to Board would be to consider qualification of this consideration to mean new standards, not new standards work. McCay reminded the group that the TSC is empowered to make this sort of decision. MOTION by McCaslin:  That the DSTU requirements for V2 be eliminated as it is a maintenance release.  Meyer noted that there is no minimum time requirement for DSTU. V2.7 will be balloted directly as a normative ballot (without a review ballot).  If the editors/content providers wish to ballot V2.7 as a for comments document, they are welcome to do that. The motion passed unanimously.
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##New Business - The TSC will not meet March 24. Meyer noted that the updated process for co-chairs elections has been distributed and asked the TSC members to review and respond with any questions/suggested edits.  McCay noted this proposal calls for TSC elections to be done during a full day ballot as opposed to just at the WGM.
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Call adjourned at 12:03 pm ET.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 17:27, 11 April 2008

TSC - Technical Steering Committee

Monday, March 17th, 2008 11:00 AM (US Eastern Time, GMT -5)
To participate, dial 770-657-9270 and enter pass code 124466#
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Attendance

Expected

  • CTO: John Quinn
  • Domain Experts: Jim Case (primary), Austin Kreisler (alternate)
  • Foundation & Technology: Ioana Singureanu (primary), Woody Beeler (alternate)
  • Structure & Semantic Design: Calvin Beebe (primary), Gregg Seppala (alternate)
  • Technical & Support Services: Ken McCaslin (primary), Helen Stevens Love (alternate)
  • Affiliate: Frank Oemig,
  • ARB Chair: Charlie Mead
  • HQ: Karen Van Hentenryck

invited

  • Charles Jaffe (CEO); Ed Hammond (HL7 Chair); Chuck Meyer (HL7 Vice Chair)

Apologies

Agenda

  1. (5 min) Meeting Admin
    1. Roll Call - Quorum was established with the following individuals participating on the call: Austin Kreisler, John Quinn, Gregg Seppala, Woody Beeler, Ken McCaslin, Ioana Singureanu, Charlie McCay, Freida Hall, Charlie Mead, Karen Van Hentenryck and Chuck Meyer
    2. Accept Agenda - Given that Charlie Mead has another commitment and that Freida Hall joined the call, the ArB report and the project initiation process will be moved to beginning of the agenda.
    3. Approve Minutes from concall-20080310 MOTION by McCalin: To approve the minutes; seconded by Charlie Mead. The motion was unanimously approved.
  2. (20 min) Standing Committee Reports/Approvals
    1. ArB Report- [1]Charlie Mead indicated that the ArB has 4 projects and one item on which to report. Three of the four projects have been taken on by the ARB, and the fourth is being supervised by the ArB. The projects are as follows: 1) Re-organization project – involves defining boundaries and responsibilites of core committees and how they intersect with the responsibilities of the ArB. Grahame Grieve is the project lead and will submit the project scope. 2) Dynamic Model project - this involves clarification of what the ArB believes its responsibilites to be regarding the Dynamic Model. The ArB won’t specify the Dynamic Model per se but will specify requirements and a framework. John Koisch is the project lead. The current plan is to use the SOA TC proposed framework as a strawman. 3) Business Model RFP - this will require asking the Board to approve the funding necessary to write the requirements for the RFP and to fund the work itself. ArB will write requirements for the RFP. This project is being led by Charlie Mead. 4) Ballot quality project – the ArB is sponsoring this project and has asked the Ballot Quality group to provide a report on their progress. Charlie hopes to receive a report and provide more information on this project on the next TSC call. Regarding the DAM definition (action item from a few weeks ago), it has been given to John Quinn. Ioana Singureanu asked if they had reviewed the latest HDF prior to developing the definition. The ArB felt that the HDF was about the content of the DAM but not the definition but the two do need to be in synch.
    2. Project initiation process and template - [2]McCaslin reported that he'd sent an email to the list with the latest versions of these documents. MOTION by McCaslin: To approve the initiation process document; seconded by Singureanu. Regarding the scope statement document, Hall noted that project services separated the template from the instructions at the suggestion of one of the pilot users. Kreisler suggested that the terms SIG and TC be changed to work groups. After some discussion the group agreed that the change would be made. MOTION by McCaslin: That the TSC appprove the project scope template document with the suggested change; seconded by Quinn. Motion passed unanimously. ACTION ITEM: Quinn and McCaslin will a draft motion on transitioning to the term work group and its implementation, including the semantics of the term (i.e., 2 words, caps or not, etc).
    3. CTO Report - Quinn reported that he emailed the CTO report to the list prior to the call. He highlighted the following areas:
      • NHS will contribute funds to the tooling budget for this year. Their contribution increases the available funding by about 33%, which is very good news.
      • Ed Hammond and Chuck Jaffe have determined that tooling is Quinn’s highest objective for the year.
      • Quinn will participate in a meeting this week with Hammond, Jaffe, Quinn, McDougall and Van Hentenryck to finalize Roadmap document.
      • ISO projects are up and running but political issues are impeding progress. Hammond is working on resolving the political issues, which revolve around IHC and ICSR.
      • HL7 Representation on HITSP committees - Quinn is still seeking HL7 representation on a number of HITSP committees and project. ACTION ITEM: Steering Division co-chairs will query their work groups for names of individuals who could represent HL7 on these committees, with feedback being delivered to Quinn prior to the next call.
    4. Affiliates Report - Nothing to report
    5. Domain Experts - Nothing to report
    6. Foundation & Technology - Singureanu reported that the Foundation & Technology steering division is still working to track down missing vocabulary references. At present, they've found 795 references to vocabulary that are missing. Vocabulary references were left null in many places and in these instances need to be addressed by the committees. There are some typographical error, some are missing all together, some have been approved but not yet reflected in the repository, etc. The VA has volunteered resources to assist with this project. Committees need to know which attributes need to have vocabulary added. Beeler had committed to this and has been working on it for the last several days. ACTION ITEM: Singureanu will update this issue against the TSC Issue Tracker.
    7. Structure & Semantic Design - Seppala noted the Structure & Semantic Design Steering Division hadn’t met, nor has there been email traffic on the listserv. There is a DSTU on Patient Admin and they have some changes they want the CTO to say are non-substantive. They’ve posted a formal request to the TSC Issue tracker for these items.[3]. ACTION ITEM: Quinn will take at Seppala's request at and send a recommendation to McCay. The TSC members agreed to empower Quinn and McCay to make the decision regarding this item.
    8. Technical & Support Services - McCaslin noted the Technical and Support Steering Division convened a call on Thurs, March 13. They had 3 motions, 2 of which have been dealt with earlier in the agenda. McCaslin noted that the documents are on the steering divisions web page under documents. ACTION ITEM: Van Hentenryck will post these under the process portion of the TSC wiki page.
  3. (30 min) Discussion topics
    • Version 2.7 as DSTU or not - McCay McCay noted there had been a discussion on this topic at the Technical & Support Steering Division call. McCaslin noted that the steering division felt that v2 documents are, for the most part, maintenance and/or scope changes and that requiring a DSTU period would add turnaround time for development. The Transition Task Force introduced the notion that every new project, except infrastructure documents, was to be published as a DSTU. The Steering Division feels that publication as a DSTU should not be a requirement for any maintenance release project. Quinn noted that the DSTU issue emerged not only from the Transition Task Force but from the Stakeholder meeting as well. Beeler suggests that recommendation to Board would be to consider qualification of this consideration to mean new standards, not new standards work. McCay reminded the group that the TSC is empowered to make this sort of decision. MOTION by McCaslin: That the DSTU requirements for V2 be eliminated as it is a maintenance release. Meyer noted that there is no minimum time requirement for DSTU. V2.7 will be balloted directly as a normative ballot (without a review ballot). If the editors/content providers wish to ballot V2.7 as a for comments document, they are welcome to do that. The motion passed unanimously.
    1. New Business - The TSC will not meet March 24. Meyer noted that the updated process for co-chairs elections has been distributed and asked the TSC members to review and respond with any questions/suggested edits. McCay noted this proposal calls for TSC elections to be done during a full day ballot as opposed to just at the WGM.

Call adjourned at 12:03 pm ET.

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