2012-04-23 TSC Call Minutes

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HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#
GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206

Date: 2012-04-23
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Austin Kreisler . Charlie Mead x Ravi Natarajan . Helen Stevens
x John Quinn x Ron Parker x Giorgio Cangioli
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
x Ed Tripp regrets Woody Beeler . Calvin Beebe x Freida Hall
regrets Mead Walker x Tony Julian x Pat van Dyke . Patrick Loyd
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote . tba x JDNolen . Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote . tba . obs2 .
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote . tba . . .

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-04-16 TSC Call Agenda
  4. Review action items –
  5. Approval items:
  6. Discussion topics:
    • Update on Tracker # 2231, Informative publication request for Patient Care: HL7 Version 3 Detailed Clinical Models, Release 1 (body weight and body height) at Project Insight # 320, for Patient Care of DESD.
    • Post-WGM meeting schedule - normally skip the Monday after (May 21) and the following meeting is U.S. Memorial Day (May 28).
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  8. Open Issues List
    • Announcement: TSC Nominations open May 1 - nomination committee is those SD chairs not up for election


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests); JDNolen joins to discuss the AP projects.
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler - no changes noted; approved by general consent
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-04-16 TSC Call Agenda Pat and Giorgio abstain. Approved 5/0/2.
  4. Review action items –
  5. Approval items: move AP projects first
    • Approve Project Scope Statement for Unique Specimen Identifier Requirements (Normative), for Anatomic Pathology WG of DESD, Cosponsored by O&O and II WGs of SSD SD, at Project Insight #861, TSC Tracker # 2249.
      • JD describes the industry need for standards in lab space on unique id for bar codes and RFID. Per guidance received at last WGM, they were advised to ballot the DAM as informative, and roll comments into a DSTU for test use and bring them into a final standard. He acknowledges there are boxes that are checked incorrectly. Freida points out that their project dates indicate different processes. Austin's concern is that the final product checked is a DAM. JD notes that the final product is a standard for a unique ID; Austin notes that HL7 has never developed a standard for an identification. Ron notes that this is about interoperability across products and paradigms. He notes that standardization is one thing, but the business validation is also important, and the involvement of GS1, CLSI and DICOM is important. Business validation typically comes from members with industry specification. There must be a transparency between what we building HL7 and an understanding of that in GS1 and the other groups. The DAM for this space will be an important contribution to this type of interoperability in other domains. Ron further finds this to be an important contribution to the SAIF perspective developing in HL7. Austin adds that we discourage DAMs from a normative track. We would need to define a product that would be going normative that is not a DAM. Austin recommends we approve the informative project scope statement and then work with JD on developing a definition of what will be going normative once they have some feedback on the DAM. Pat checks if this means we would retract the request for the normative project scope statement? The project would be on-hold, perhaps? JD asks what the target dates after the September WGM for the January ballot cycle are - likely November? We may need to discuss the representation of this proposed normative content at the Vancouver meeting. Austin recommends he work with our Methodology group to understand what constitutes a standard and what its requirements for development might be. John suggests we put it in the newsletter and figure out where it goes into the product suite as well. Austin recommends JD withdraw the project for now as they define what the product will be and potential cosponsors emerge, rather than putting it on hold. JD agrees to withdraw.
    • Approve Project Scope Statement for Unique Specimen Identifier Requirements (Informative), for Anatomic Pathology WG of DESD, Cosponsored by O&O and II WGs of SSD SD, at Project Insight #862, TSC Tracker # 2250.
      • Vote: unanimously approved.
    • Approve Project Scope Statement for CDS WG of SSD SSD for HL7 Version 3 Standard: Context-aware Knowledge Retrieval Application (Infobutton), Knowledge Request, Release 2,, at Project Insight #875, TSC Tracker # 2247.
      • Pat describes this project and the associated implementation guide below
    • Approve Project Scope Statement for CDS WG of SSD SSD for URL-Based Implementations of the Context-Aware Information Retrieval (Infobutton) Domain, Release 4,, at Project Insight #876, TSC Tracker # 2248.
      • Austin notes they're adding new scope to Infobutton, and then updating the Implementation Guide to cover it. Freida notes that the original Infobutton was named in the Meaningful Use specification although this standard is proposed to be universal realm. She also notes that this is the first 2012 format of the Project Scope Statement to come through.
      • Vote: Both scope statements unanimously approved.
  6. Discussion topics:
    • Update on Tracker # 2231, Informative publication request for Patient Care: HL7 Version 3 Detailed Clinical Models, Release 1 (body weight and body height) at Project Insight # 320, for Patient Care of DESD.
      • Communication to Patient Care co-chairs about publication in whole of the DCM material resulted in a response from William that implied his understanding that we didn't want them to publish. Austin's response was met with concern that the other patient care cochairs would block any other attempt to bring forward separate DCMs; John notes there is concern with what we're developing here versus what is happening in CIMI. Ed suggests we invite Patient Care representatives to the Tuesday lunch meeting. Austin would be concerned that we have co-chairs both pro-HL7 DCM and pro-CIMI to be represented. John will mention it to Stan. ACTION ITEM: Ed will invite co-chairs to the Tuesday luncheon, Lynn will check on lunch arrangements and update the agenda.
    • Post-WGM meeting schedule - normally skip the Monday after (May 21) and the following meeting is U.S. Memorial Day (May 28). Do we want to try to meet on the Tuesday, May 29th? This is met with general favor; we'll plan for 11 AM EDT May 29th.
  7. New business: SAIF AP has approved for inclusion in its program but has slipped through the cracks on a Cross-Paradigm Interoperability project that was approved by FTSD and was supposed to be handed off to DESD. See project insight # 863
  8. Announcement: TSC Nominations open May 1 - nomination committee is those elected chairs not up for election, an international representative will also be needed.


Adjourned 11:44 AM EDT

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Ed will invite PC co-chairs to the Tuesday luncheon,
  • Lynn will check on lunch arrangements and update the agenda for the Tuesday luncheon.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items


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