2012-04-16 TSC Call Minutes

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Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#
GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206

Date: 2012-04-16
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes/no
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Austin Kreisler . Charlie Mead x Ravi Natarajan 1st half Helen Stevens
x John Quinn x Ron Parker regrets Giorgio Cangioli
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
regrets Ed Tripp regrets Woody Beeler x Calvin Beebe x Freida Hall
x Mead Walker . Tony Julian . Pat van Dyke x Patrick Loyd
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote x Ken McCaslin . obs1 x Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote . tba . obs2 .
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote . tba . . .

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-04-09 TSC Call Agenda
  4. Review action items –
  5. Approval items:
  6. Discussion topics:
    • Proposed Domain Analysis Model Definition from ArB
    • International perspective on Activities with Other SDOs (Austin)
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  8. WGM Planning -
  9. Open Issues List


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) Ken joins the call on the ES projects
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler approved by general consent
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-04-09 TSC Call Agenda, Helen, Ravi abstain, approved 4/0/2.
  4. Review action items –
  5. Approval items:
  6. Discussion topics:
    • Mead joins the call.
    • International perspective on Activities with Other SDOs (Austin) - Austin notes with Helen's pending departure at the bottom of the hour he wishes to move this up. Topic this time is actual implementers' experience in moving a project through multiple SDOs. Would like to hear from at least one affiliate-based project to participate on the panel. Ravi notes that NHS would probably have some experience and he will check around. Last time was leaders of the SDOs themselves on the panel. Ravi notes that he will ask Nicholas Oughtibridge to participate if he's able to attend the WGM. Panel meeting is Sunday Q4, with the next concall this Thursday 4/19 at 1 pm. Ravi will email the International Council list to invite participation as well. Mead suggests they ask the question which affiliate projects involved participation among SDOs. John notes that by the time of the Vancouver meeting the US will be building an organization to do that between the ISO US TAG and the SCO. Canadian Standards Collaborative is similar - Helen will discuss with Melva. ACTION ITEM: Lynn will forward the concall meeting invitation to the TSC admins list.
    • Proposed Domain Analysis Model Definition from ArB
      • Patrick notes they had a three hour meeting that only took 2 hrs. Ron made some subtle additions he just updated on the wiki. Austin wishes the TSC members to review it briefly and thinks it warrants further discussion in Vancouver.
      • Ron discusses some of the assumptions determined to support it. Commensurate with commission by the Board to publish DAMs it was felt that DAMs must be understood without additional access to HL7 or other IP that is restricted (not public). Needs to be sufficiently expressive and self contained. This is a guidance principle to the degree with which a DAM is refined to make it usable when publicly available. This definition does not speak to the form of a DAM, as much as its intent. He adds that DAMs must declare their rationale for creating or extending the DAM, but not address the entire functionality of the Domain.
      • Consensus is not sought today but presented as a conversation starter. Mead asks how the document will be distributed. Ron notes that it's up to the TSC. Austin hasn't given much thought to how to publish it. Is a wiki page sufficient, or something more formal. Ron adds that existing DAMs should not be seen as insufficient, but may need to be tweaked a little to be more conceptual and less physical. DAMs are only complete for a domain for the perspective and purpose for which they are created and assert that DAMs cannot fully express an entire domain. Elaborating that how one develops a DAM should not be in the definition, he describes there may be an implementation guide for HL7 purposes. John adds that it will be dependent on a context at the time the DAM is created. With the SHALLs in place for the definition of a DAM, we might allow a DAM to be Normative. We may have to wait for the implementation guide, or perhaps we cannot wait that long.
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  8. WGM Planning -
    • 2012-05-12_TSC_WGM_Agenda
      • Q1 strategic issues
      • Q2 SAIF IG, Tooling Strategy, DAM definition
      • Q3 TSC projects review
      • Q4 TSC defining documents, communication plan, three year plan

Adjourned 11:53 AM EDT

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Lynn will forward the SDOs concall meeting invitation to the TSC admins list..
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items


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