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#:Objectives: to define a conceptual model for UDI to ensure interoperable implementation across the suite of HL7 standards (v2, v3 message4, v3 CDA, FHIR
 
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#*Review last week's discussion at [[2013-11-07 TSC UDI Task Force]]
 
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===Minutes===
 
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Convened at 4:05 PM
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Paul reviews FDA-UDI Identifiers 20131108 PD.xlsx
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Terrie has the FDA OID to send Paul, confirmed by Brett as 2.16.840.1.113883.3.3719
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The exchange format (string) is always the human readable format with parentheses
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Christian notes a pilot with Mercy Health have worked with this successfully and would like to have them explain their approach. Terrie notes they have seen these documents and they are exchanging with the Am College of Cardiology, but they are a GS1 shop.  Christian adds they pull the information and parse the GS1 UDI and use it internally but plan to exchange externally in future.  Terrie notes that FDA funded the pilot but they have not specifically been asked this question yet; she will ask them.
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Austin notes that pattern harmonization would be a good place to resolve and document the pattern. Paul notes that it would be an HL7 solution so the others would not necessarily be present.
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Will next create a model to capture the decomposed elements of the UDI for next week's review.  At that time we can also review how it might be used in each of the different HL7 standards.
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[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/7685/11177/%46%44%41%2d%55%44%49%20%49%64%65%6e%74%69%66%69%65%72%73%20%32%30%31%33%31%31%31%34%2e%78%6c%73%78 Documents] will be available as linked from the TSC wiki.
  
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Julian adds it's been difficult to find a good example and datatypes mapping for transferring UDI.  Austin notes that this work is a precursor to make that happen. Intact human readable string is what is transferred, no matter where HL7 will put it.
  
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Latest revision as of 22:15, 14 November 2013

TSC UDI TF

Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/134453157

Date: 2013-11-14
Time: 4:00 PM U.S. Eastern DAYLIGHT
Facilitator: Paul Knapp Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum not defined
Attendee role
x Paul Ashford ICCBBA
x Nagesh Bashyam Drajer
x Hans Buitendijk Siemens
x Todd Cooper DEV cochair
Pat Distler HIBC
x Pat Fields FDA
x Julian Goldman
x Matt Graham Mayo, Mobile Health cochair
Grahame Grieve FHIR FMG, MnM
x Christian Hay GS1
x Wendy Huang CGIT
x Anne Kling Mitre
x Paul Knapp FTSD co-chair, UDI Task Force Chair, ITS and FM cochairs, FMG
x Austin Kreisler TSC
x Brett Marquard SDWG
x Ken McCaslin Quest
x Behnaz Minaei FDA
x Matt Rahn ONC
x Brian Pech KP
x Terrie Reed FDA informatics and ONC with UDI incorporation into certification activities
x John Rhoads cochair DEV
x Paul Schluter with DEV and liaise with Continua and IHE PCP
Pat Van Dyke EHR cochair, ADentalA liaison
Pele Yu Child Health

Agenda

  1. Roll Call
  2. Review draft agenda
  3. Task Force
    Definition: a purpose tasked committee with a lifetime to match the issue
    Objectives: to define a conceptual model for UDI to ensure interoperable implementation across the suite of HL7 standards (v2, v3 message4, v3 CDA, FHIR
    Goals for today:
  4. Review Paul's draft model
  5. Next steps
  6. Adjourn

Notes:

UDI rule out for guidance/comment until about Nov 24 2013


Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Convened at 4:05 PM

Paul reviews FDA-UDI Identifiers 20131108 PD.xlsx

Terrie has the FDA OID to send Paul, confirmed by Brett as 2.16.840.1.113883.3.3719

The exchange format (string) is always the human readable format with parentheses

Christian notes a pilot with Mercy Health have worked with this successfully and would like to have them explain their approach. Terrie notes they have seen these documents and they are exchanging with the Am College of Cardiology, but they are a GS1 shop. Christian adds they pull the information and parse the GS1 UDI and use it internally but plan to exchange externally in future. Terrie notes that FDA funded the pilot but they have not specifically been asked this question yet; she will ask them.

Austin notes that pattern harmonization would be a good place to resolve and document the pattern. Paul notes that it would be an HL7 solution so the others would not necessarily be present.

Will next create a model to capture the decomposed elements of the UDI for next week's review. At that time we can also review how it might be used in each of the different HL7 standards.

Documents will be available as linked from the TSC wiki.

Julian adds it's been difficult to find a good example and datatypes mapping for transferring UDI. Austin notes that this work is a precursor to make that happen. Intact human readable string is what is transferred, no matter where HL7 will put it.

Adjourned 5:05 PM

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items


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