FTSD-F2F-20110912

Fndn&Tech Steering Divn -Face-to-Face (date above)

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Steering Division Members:

• Application Integration & Design (AID)
• Implementable Technology Specifications (ITS)
• Conformance & Guidance for Implementation/Testing(CGIT)
• Infrastructure & Messaging (InM)
• Modeling & Methodology (MnM)
• Security
• Service Oriented Architecture (SOA)
• Templates
• Vocabulary

Attendees

Facilitator		Note taker		Quorum
Woody or Tony		Woody or Tony		Yes/No
Implementable Technology Specifications (ITS)		Implementation/Conformance (InC)		Infrastructure and Messaging (InM)
.	Knapp, Paul	.	Huang, Wendy	.	Julian, Tony
.	Nelson, Dale	.	Oemig, Frank	.	Loyd, Patrick
.	Stechishin, Andy	.	Peters, Melva	.	Shaver, Dave
		.	Snelick, Robert	.	Stuart, Sandy
Modeling & Methodology (MnM)		RIM-Based Application Architecture (RIMBAA)		Security
.	Beeler, Woody	.	Hendler MD, Peter	.	Blobel PhD, Bernd
.	Duteau, Jean	.	Shabo PhD, Amnon	.	Moehrke, John
.	Grieve, Grahame	.	Spronk, Rene
.	McKenzie, Lloyd
.	Natarajan , Ravi
Service Oriented Architecture (SOA)		Templates		Vocabulary
.	Jorgenson, Don	.	Baird, Douglas	.	Case, James
.	Mulrooney, Galen	.	Roberts , John	.	Grain, Heather
.	Rubin, Ken	.	Shafarman, Mark	.	Hausam, Rob
.	Wrightson, Ann			.	Klein, William Ted
				.	Knight, Beverly
				.
Guests
.	Laakso, Lynn
.	.=Absent, X=Present

Agenda

1. (05 min) Roll Call
2. (05 min) Approve Previous Minutes & Accept Agenda
3. (15 min) Artifact Definition Discussion re: SAIF (Requested by Ken Rubin)
   1. With the emergence of the SAIF as the underpinning for HL7 Artifacts, efforts are underway to redefine all HL7 work products in the context of the SAIF and as SAIF-compliant artifacts. This will affect all workgroup activities and potentially affect our Steering Division. I would propose that MnM give an update on the progress of the SAIF Artifact Definition Process, and that we have a discussion within the steering division about the validation / assurance process to ensure that the results meet our collective needs.
4. (15 min) How should HL7 deal with projects/material that have lost the proponent/primary driver but still are needed?.
5. (15 min) Introduction to Reports item for individual work groups and the TSC
   1. http://www.hl7.org/Special/committees/tsc/reports.cfm
6. (15 min)HL7 PSS-External Terminology Authority v2.doc (in gforge, but in pending queue)
7. (5 min) Other Business

Paul, Dale, wendy, Frank, Sandy, (Melva Resigned)Grahme, lloyd, hendler, Spronk, Mike Davis( Security), Don, Ken, John Roberts, Mark Shafarman, Jim Case, Heather, Ted Klein, Galen, Beverly, Berndt, Lynn Laakso

Minutes

1. (05 min) Roll Call
2. (05 min) Approve Previous Minutes & Accept Agenda by affirmation.
3. (15 min) Artifact Definition Discussion re: SAIF (Requested by Ken Rubin)
   1. With the emergence of the SAIF as the underpinning for HL7 Artifacts, efforts are underway to redefine all HL7 work products in the context of the SAIF and as SAIF-compliant artifacts. This will affect all workgroup activities and potentially affect our Steering Division. I would propose that MnM give an update on the progress of the SAIF Artifact Definition Process, and that we have a discussion within the steering division about the validation / assurance process to ensure that the results meet our collective needs.
      1. Lloyd: As part of the migration to SAIF there is a likelyhood that additional artifacts will be introduced, and documentation of the function of existing artifacts will be improved. Three steps: Artifact inventory, 2. Process to manage, 3. Governance. Undertaking step 1 - identifying candidate artifacts through engagement with various committees. Categorizing them as conceptual, logical, implementable. Including the full metadata about the artifact(how do you create, etc.). Have processed ten (10%) percent. Will accept volunteers. Will go for broader review by the including the FTSD. Then steps 2 and 3 will be done, then go to ballot. Calls are fridays.
      2. Ted: Some version 3 artifacts include vocabulary - but there has been no involvement.
      3. Lloyd: We would be happy to have Vocab representative.
      4. Woody: Started in Sydney. We need help.
      5. Ken: I suggested we put this on our agenda since we have had a quiet spell. We are working some of them in committee. These affect other WG's, and I wanted to find out how others are doing.
      6. Woody: There is a link on the MnM wiki on the written or partially written, and non-links to those planned.
      7. Ken: It stood out in my mind that some of the definitions are too robust. We should start with the minimum set - if the bar is too high, we will not get done. We can plan a continuous improvement project. The feel academic and purist - and sets a very high bar out of the gate to those who are new to the process.
      8. Woody: You are right. Take your best pass.
      9. Ken: We should reach concensus that you do what you can, and we will raise the bar as necessary in the future.
      10. Lloyd: We will take anybody that is willing to work. At ballot time we will indentify the minimum criteria, and polish as necessary. People should fill in what they know, rather than defining a minimum at this time.
      11. Ted: The criteria will be emergent.
      12. Lloyd: Fill in what you can. We will add more as necessary.
      13. Ken: Is that a timeline?
      14. Lloyd: We were to ballot in May 2011. It will be difficult to move to SAIF - get the implementation guides done - if we dont have the key artifacts defined. For moving to SAIF to be meaningful we will need to add governance.
      15. Woody: Thursday Q2 in Garden Salon 1.
      16. Ken: Are any others doing anything?
      17. Lloyd: EHR, Security, MnM and OO are. Some are working on it as individuals, some as committees, some not at all. Also look for missing items.
4. (15 min) How should HL7 deal with projects/material that have lost the proponent/primary driver but still are needed?.
   1. Beverly:We should list them, and park them.
   2. Ted:Is there an official standard for park?
   3. Lynn:On Hold.
   4. Beverly: Should we talk to the FTSD about retiring a project?
   5. Paul: If we need steering division approval to start, we should have SD approval to hold.
   6. Ted: Publicize before WGM.
   7. Woody: Recommend to TSC that other WG's publicize.
   8. Lynn: There is a help-wanted wiki page. Would this be usefull?
   9. Woody: We need a list of on-hold and withdrawn.
   10. Galen: If we all published of projects on hold, I would not have time to read. But I do read the TSC e-mail, and if cancelled/on hold were in it, I would read it.
   11. Jim: Vocab goes through theirs - status changes (active, hold, cancelled).
   12. Ken: Could be be proactive? Cross posting on lists.
   13. Lloyd: Other than relying on co-chairs, the TSC notice with a two-phase process (intent to hold, intent to cancel).
   14. Paul: Came about because InM was going to kill a set of projects.
   15. Lloyd: TSC or anyone else can question the
5. (15 min) Introduction to Reports item for individual work groups and the TSC
   1. http://www.hl7.org/Special/committees/tsc/reports.cfm
   2. Woody introduced the PBS reports, which are available from a "Reports" link on each work-groups HL7.ORG web page.
   3. Tsc will use these when evaluating projects.
6. (15 min)HL7 PSS-External Terminology Authority v2.doc (in gforge, but in pending queue)
   1. Jim: The PSS is not well written, and will need clarifying edits. Vocab will work on it, and re-submit to FTSD.
7. ITS will be coming with a PS to do a new version of the V2 XML.
   1. Frank: We introduced choices in 2.3.1, and length changes in 2.7.
8. Beverly: Vocabulary is the healthiest work group. (applause).
9. Adjourn at 8:00pm U.S.Pacific daylight.

A julian 03:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

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