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Date: 2012-10-29
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Austin Kreisler x Charlie Mead . Ravi Natarajan . Melva Peters
x John Quinn regrets Ron Parker x Giorgio Cangioli
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
x Ed Tripp x Woody Beeler regrets Calvin Beebe x Freida Hall
x Mead Walker x Tony Julian x Pat van Dyke . Patrick Loyd
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote . Jean Duteau, Affiliate Representative-elect . obs1 . Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote x Andy Stechishin, co-chair-elect . obs2 .
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote x Ken McCaslin, ES cochair . . .

Agenda

Housekeeping

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-10-22 TSC Call Agenda
  4. WGM Room Scheduling Project - Would like input from Steering Division co-chairs (Ken McCaslin - 5 min)

Governance

  1. Approval items:
    • FHIR Governance Board (FGB) nominations for FHIR Management Group: (5 min)
      • FGB chair (Ron Parker)- ex officio,
      • CTO John Quinn - ex officio
      • MnM co-chair: Lloyd McKenzie
      • SD Nominees:
        • John Moehrke representing FTSD
        • Hugh Glover representing DESD
        • Lorraine Constable representing SSD
        • Brian Pech for T3SD
      • Ad-hoc nominees: Jean Duteau and David Hay
  2. Discussion topics:
    • further Product line definition discussion - see draft document (30 min)

Management

  1. Approval items:
    for e-vote this week:
    e-vote results from last week:
  2. Discussion topics:
    • Potential conflict with TSC Sunday evening meeting and HL7 Fellows Dinner (5 min)
  3. Reports:
    • Data Types Task Force Report
    • Risk Assessment Task Force Report
      • additional TSC volunteer participation needed
    • MnM of FTSD has submitted for normative publication the HL7 Version 3 Standard: Common Message Element Types, Release 3 (does not require TSC approval) Congratulations!
    • Pharmacy WG of DESD has submitted for normative publication the HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Medication Knowledge-Base Query, Release 1 - Congratulations to them!
  4. Review action items –
    • Austin will take the issue of Facilitator training tutorials as webinars to Education
    • Calvin to contact rep from Qualibria on CCOW WG participation interest.
    • Tony will address with InM on absorbing CCOW.
    • Austin and Freida will draft proposed changes in wording to the GOM for TSC attendance at WGMs and bring it back to the TSC for review at another date.
    • Austin will do a draft RACI chart for People/Roles for the WGH Precept


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Austin convened at 11:06 AM after discussion of the hurricane

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) Ken for scheduling project, Andy as invited guest
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler - approved by general consent
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-10-22 TSC Call Agenda unanimously approved
  4. WGM Room Scheduling Project - Would like input from Steering Division co-chairs (Ken McCaslin - 5 min)
    • Ken describes need for better communication between joint meetings or WG having representatives join while still conducting their own meeting. We've had some negative feedback lately. Looking forward to possibility to manage using head counts on room usage to monitor.
    • Participation from full set of cochairs is over 100 people; seeking participation from SD cochairs. Ed asks if we can stand up a dynamic representation on a web site to see requests. Ed, Freida, Pat, and Woody volunteer. Ken will send out a Doodle poll.

Governance

  1. Approval items:
    • FHIR Governance Board (FGB) nominations for FHIR Management Group: (5 min)
      • FGB chair (Ron Parker)- ex officio,
      • CTO John Quinn - ex officio
      • MnM co-chair: Lloyd McKenzie
      • SD Nominees:
        • John Moehrke representing FTSD
        • Hugh Glover representing DESD
        • Lorraine Constable representing SSD
        • Brian Pech for T3SD
      • Ad-hoc nominees: Jean Duteau and David Hay
    • Pat moves and Freida seconds acceptance of composition. Vote: unanimously approved.
    • Austin will email the group to notify them.
  2. Discussion topics:
    • further Product line definition discussion - see draft document (30 min)
      • Charlie describes the development history of the document. Key notion is producer vs consumer perspective, and customer perceptions. Family has common resources, tools, methodologies, and governance.
      • Giorgio had sent questions to the list regarding boundary of family; Is information view a family, all RIM-derived products a family? Charlie notes the RIM constitutes common resource but differences in tools, methodologies or governance would distinguish other product families.
      • Pat asks about reference to EHR Functional Model application: all functional models share resources, tools, methodologies, governance. Functional Profiles for PHR profiles versus EHR profiles are different product lines. Doe the customers in the one product line/consumer segment have expectations for interoperability in the other product line? Thought to be true, then consumer expectations for different product lines within the same product family is not as problematic as cross-product line requirements in different families. Child Health, notes Pat, has also a neonatal profile derived from the Child Health profile. Is it a sub-product line. It depends on how you define your market.
      • Austin clarifies Giorgio's question about different ways of grouping products into product lines, with a product line drawing products from different families or different product lines, with a many-to-many relationship between a product and its product lines. Ed notes another perspective is some products would have a marketplace of "everybody".
      • Families organized around developer perspective and the lines organized around customer perspective is the goal for agreement on the TSC today. Freida and Andy note that their questions were answered along with Giorgio's.
      • Charlie notes the ArB wants to use these concepts in their skeleton Business Model to specifically call out such notions of product families as compared with product lines. Motion: John moves the ArB move forward with TSC endorsement of the definitions in the document. Woody seconds.
      • Vote: unanimously approved.

Management

  1. Approval items:
    • Work Group Formation Request from DESD for the Clinical Quality Work Group at TSC Tracker #2395 (5 min)
      • Review comments from domain experts list
      • Ed has not seen a response from the cochairs of the proposed Work Group, and suggests we wait a week to continue dialogue. Postpone to next week.
    • Project Approval request for HL7 Care Coordination Service (CCS), for Patient Care WG of DESD and cosponsored by Clinical Decision Support WG of SSD SD and SOA WG of FTSD at Project Insight # 924, and TSC Tracker #2398 (5 min)
      • Review PBS Metrics; there was no comment from Domain Experts' cochairs in regards to the Work Group's PBS Metrics. Freida notes that another report is due in November. One of the unpublished ballots is the DCMs for which the TSC is waiting for an updated publication request for 2 of the 5 balloted models. One unpublished ballot dates back to 2007. Woody notes that their lack of response is indicative of their participation. Ed suggests we send a note back that this is tabled by TSC pending a plan to address their PBS metrics, and requesting their cochairs attend the TSC call to discuss. Mead recounts a past conversation with William. ACTION ITEM: Austin will send an email to the Patient Care WG cochairs that the project approval is tabled pending report of their action plan to address their unpublished ballots, and request cochair representation on the next TSC meeting. Woody moves to table Project approval and Ed seconds. Unanimously approved.
    for e-vote this week:
    e-vote results from last week: all approved 7/0/0 (4 SD, 2 Affiliate, 1 ArB voting)
  2. Discussion topics:
    • Potential conflict with TSC Sunday evening meeting and HL7 Fellows Dinner (5 min) - technically not a conflict as the TSC meeting is scheduled until 6:30 PM and the Fellows dinner is to begin at 6:30, but if the TSC runs over the Fellows on the TSC might miss part of the meeting or walk out on the TSC meeting. John notes if there is some social networking prior to the dinner itself we have some flexibility.
      • Ken rejoins and notes that dinner is scheduled for 6:30 to 7 and then a meeting of the Fellows is to begin at 7. If dinner runs late he may start the meeting at 7:15.
      • Austin cautions that the BAM as a substantive discussion in January holds the potential for running over. John suggests succinct discussion
  3. Reports:
    • Data Types Task Force Report - Woody reports we expect the recommendation to be done by the end of the month
    • Risk Assessment Task Force Report
      • additional TSC volunteer participation needed
      • Austin notes that prospective new members of the TSC might step in to this role - please indicate your interest offline.
    • MnM of FTSD has submitted for normative publication the HL7 Version 3 Standard: Common Message Element Types, Release 3 (does not require TSC approval) Congratulations!
    • Pharmacy WG of DESD has submitted for normative publication the HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Medication Knowledge-Base Query, Release 1 - Congratulations to them!


Adjourned 12:02 PM EDT

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Ken will send out a Doodle poll for scheduling WGM Room, Scheduling Project discussion
  • Austin will send an email to the Patient Care WG cochairs that the project approval is tabled pending report of their action plan to address their unpublished ballots, and request cochair representation on the next TSC meeting.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items


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