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===Meeting Info/Attendees===
 
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|colspan="2"|Chair/CTO ||colspan="2"|ArB ||colspan="2"|International Affiliate Rep ||colspan="2"|Ad-Hoc
 
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|.||Ken McCaslin||.||Tony Julian||regrets|| Jean Duteau||.||Austin Kreisler
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|x||Ken McCaslin||x||Tony Julian||x||Jean Duteau||x||Austin Kreisler
 
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|regrets||John Quinn ||.||Lorraine Constable||.|| Giorgio Cangioli||.||
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|regrets||John Quinn ||x||Lorraine Constable||x|| Giorgio Cangioli||.||
  
 
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|regrets||Melva Peters||regrets||Woody Beeler||.||Calvin Beebe||.||Freida Hall
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|regrets||Melva Peters||regrets||Woody Beeler||x||Calvin Beebe||x||Freida Hall
 
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|regrets||John Roberts||.||Paul Knapp||.||Pat van Dyke||.||Andy Stechishin
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|regrets||John Roberts||x||Paul Knapp||x||Pat van Dyke||x||Andy Stechishin
 
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|.||Stan Huff (HL7 Chair) w/vote||.|| ||.||''obs1''||.||Lynn Laakso
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|.||Don Mon (Vice Chair) <s>vote</s>||.||.||.||''obs2''||.||
 
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#Discussion topics:  
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#*Who has responsibilities to define new product definition: Project Services noticed we currently have 19 projects with “New Product Definition”.  (Freida)
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#*Conformance profile development by volunteers (Ken)
 
====Management====
 
====Management====
 
#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
 
#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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#*Andy is assigned review of the GOM on naming conventions with Publishing. Review again in September.
 
#*Andy is assigned review of the GOM on naming conventions with Publishing. Review again in September.
 
#*Need to extract the errata publication guidance from the 2013-01-12 minutes and TSC Tracker 2403 and review and make available.
 
#*Need to extract the errata publication guidance from the 2013-01-12 minutes and TSC Tracker 2403 and review and make available.
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#**see [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Process_for_requesting_publication_of_errata Process for requesting publication of errata] from [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Co-Chair_Handbook_Information#Publishing co-chair handbook page]
 
#*the International Council was told the TSC would identify the next conformance profiles and the TSC should discuss further. Ken to speak to Chuck about it.  
 
#*the International Council was told the TSC would identify the next conformance profiles and the TSC should discuss further. Ken to speak to Chuck about it.  
 
#*Woody report back on collaboration with ARB and MnM to narrow the scope of the SAIF IG to allow completion of the project in a reasonable period of time.
 
#*Woody report back on collaboration with ARB and MnM to narrow the scope of the SAIF IG to allow completion of the project in a reasonable period of time.
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2585&start=0 2585] Define list of machine-processable artifacts for membership benefit - Ken will follow up with Stan on who is the Marketing committee chair and the Board's intent with the list
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#*Freida will draft PSS for [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/8220/12009/%48%4c%37%20%52%69%73%6b%20%41%6e%61%6c%79%73%69%73%20%50%53%53%5f%50%4b%5f%50%56%20%56%32%2e%64%6f%63%78 Positioning Security Risk Analysis standard within HL7] and circulate to TSC
 
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3233/11962/PSS_CDAR2_Reaffirmation%2020140505.doc Project approval request] of ''CDA R2 Reaffirmation'' for SDWG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1094 Project Insight # 1094] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3233&start=0 TSC Tracker #3233]
 
#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3233/11962/PSS_CDAR2_Reaffirmation%2020140505.doc Project approval request] of ''CDA R2 Reaffirmation'' for SDWG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1094 Project Insight # 1094] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3233&start=0 TSC Tracker #3233]
 
#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3231/11956/%48%4c%37%20%50%72%6f%6a%65%63%74%20%53%63%6f%70%65%20%53%74%61%74%65%6d%65%6e%74%5f%45%55%2d%55%53%5f%76%32%20%30%20%32%30%31%34%30%35%30%35%2e%64%6f%63 Project approval request] of ''International Patient Summary template'' for SDWG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1087 Project Insight # 1087] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3231&start=0 TSC Tracker #3231]
 
#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3231/11956/%48%4c%37%20%50%72%6f%6a%65%63%74%20%53%63%6f%70%65%20%53%74%61%74%65%6d%65%6e%74%5f%45%55%2d%55%53%5f%76%32%20%30%20%32%30%31%34%30%35%30%35%2e%64%6f%63 Project approval request] of ''International Patient Summary template'' for SDWG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1087 Project Insight # 1087] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3231&start=0 TSC Tracker #3231]
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#Approval items for e-vote prior to next call on June 2:
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3272/12002/%41%4e%53%49%5f%70%72%6f%70%6f%73%61%6c%5f%77%69%74%68%64%72%61%77%61%6c%20%50%41%5f%53%63%68%65%64%6c%75%69%6e%67%20%43%4d%45%54%73%2e%64%6f%63 Withdrawal request] of ''HL7 Version 3 Standard: Scheduling CMETs, Release 10'' for Patient Administration WG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=459 Project Insight # 459] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3272&start=0 TSC Tracker #3272]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3273/12003/%41%4e%53%49%5f%70%72%6f%70%6f%73%61%6c%5f%77%69%74%68%64%72%61%77%61%6c%20%50%41%5f%49%6e%64%65%72%64%65%70%65%6e%64%65%6e%74%5f%52%65%67%69%73%74%72%69%65%73%2e%64%6f%63 Withdrawal request] of ''HL7 Version 3 Domain Analysis Model: Patient Administration; Interdependent Registries, Release 1'' for Patient Administration WG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=725 Project Insight # 725] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3273&start=0 TSC Tracker #3273]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3277/12004/%48%4c%37%46%48%49%52%2d%50%53%53%5f%50%43%57%47%2d%52%65%66%65%72%72%61%6c%5f%32%30%31%34%2d%30%34%2d%31%30%5f%50%43%57%47%2d%61%70%70%72%6f%76%65%64%5f%76%30%33%2e%64%6f%63 Project Approval request] of (pending FMG approval) ''Patient Care WG Develop FHIR resources and profiles for the second DSTU release'' for Patient Care WG of DESD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1105 Project Insight # 1105] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3277&start=0 TSC Tracker #3277]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3278/12005/%48%4c%37%46%48%49%52%2d%50%53%53%5f%48%43%44%2d%44%65%76%69%63%65%41%6c%61%72%6d%5f%61%6e%64%5f%43%6f%6e%74%72%6f%6c%5f%32%30%31%34%2d%30%34%2d%33%30%5f%48%43%44%57%47%2d%64%72%61%66%74%5f%76%30%37%2e%64%6f%63 Project Approval request] of (pending FMG approval) '' ''Health Care Devices to Develop FHIR resources and profiles for the second DSTU release'' for Health Care Devices WG of DESD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1103 Project Insight # 1103] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3278&start=0 TSC Tracker #3278]
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#*TSC Three-year planning - do we need to review it?
 
#*TSC Three-year planning - do we need to review it?
 
#*WG Health – Impact on SD project approval
 
#*WG Health – Impact on SD project approval
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#**See [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/projectServices/PBSMetricGuidanceforSDCoChairsFinal.doc PBS Metrics Guidance for SD Co-Chairs]
 
#*Determine the next 2-4 profiles for Conformance Testing (candidate topics: LRI, CDA R2, EHR-S FM, EHR-S FPs).  
 
#*Determine the next 2-4 profiles for Conformance Testing (candidate topics: LRI, CDA R2, EHR-S FM, EHR-S FPs).  
 
#Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
 
#Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
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#*From the Co-Chair calendar for the cycle, now available at [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Co-Chair_Handbook_Information Co-Chair Handbook Information] on the HL7 wiki
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#**2014-05-16 WGM room request deadline - see [http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?MeetingRoomRequestForm Request Form]
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#**2014-05-18 New Project Scope deadline for 2014Sep ballot cycle (http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?ProjectScopeStatement)
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#**2014-05-23 Meeting minutes posting deadline (http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?UploadMinutes)
 
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#[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=313 Open Issues List]
 
#[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=313 Open Issues List]
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===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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Ken convenes at 11:02 AM
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) no visitors
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#Agenda review and approval - - defer minutes until DESD available.
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====Governance====
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#Discussion topics:
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#*Who has responsibilities to define new product definition: Project Services noticed we currently have 19 projects with “New Product Definition”.  (Freida)
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#**Checkbox on project scope statement - what happens next? Who defines it? Austin notes there is some confusion about what that means and suggests removing the check boxes and offering free text to describe the products the project will produce. The guidance in the PSS for that section points them to the products section of the web site and the seven primary categories on the introduction page. Freida asks when such a new product definition is brought up on a PSS, is Project Services supposed to look at that, or review with the Steering Division or some other review?
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#**Should this be new product family instead of new product? A new IG for CCDA is not a new product. IT should indicate for a new product family/line and a text area to describe how it is different and then point them in the guidance to the definition of a product family and product line from the BAM.
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#*Conformance profile development by volunteers (Ken)
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#**Ken doing some research on whether conformance profile development can be adequately performed using only volunteer work; the first one cost about $40k to develop.
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#**Jean disclaims he received the work from the first bid which was fixed price from HQ. If Chuck intends to develop four more profiles for September, you won't get the quality from a volunteer effort that you would get from a dedicated funded developer.
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#**Ken asks about how well the $40k covered the work? Jean notes that there is economy of scale so that three more would not need $120k to cover; they worked with Aegis to determine what was needed but they only produced one scenario from the implementation guide, not all the use cases of the IG.
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#**Lorraine notes that with a timeframe of a project schedule to review on volunteer reviewers was difficult and resulted in delay of deliverables. Further discussion ensued.
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#**Discussion of the cost/revenue options and interest (both US Realm and International) in the next profiles resulted in desire for market research. FHIR is of great interest but no FHIR profiles available to constrain adequately at this time. With free reference implementations available then paid conformance testing may not be marketable.
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#**Paul says we need to evaluate based on the pain that can be alleviated by the selection. LRI, CDA R2 IG, Immunization Guide additional cases. Paul asks what mandated exchange (current or proposed) that is not working well for people? If not then what is the value of conformance testing. Large scale CDA exchange between providers is suggested by Austin.
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#**ACTION ITEM: Ken and Calvin will address the potential for a survey.
  
  
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Defer remaining topics to next call; Adjourned 11:59 AM
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====Management====
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#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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#*Ken will clarify with Karen on permissibility of dot releases with ANSI and approaches for technical corrections.
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#*Andy is assigned review of the GOM on naming conventions with Publishing. Review again in September.
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#*Need to extract the errata publication guidance from the 2013-01-12 minutes and TSC Tracker 2403 and review and make available.
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#**see [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Process_for_requesting_publication_of_errata Process for requesting publication of errata] from [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Co-Chair_Handbook_Information#Publishing co-chair handbook page]
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#*the International Council was told the TSC would identify the next conformance profiles and the TSC should discuss further. Ken to speak to Chuck about it.
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#*Woody report back on collaboration with ARB and MnM to narrow the scope of the SAIF IG to allow completion of the project in a reasonable period of time.
 +
#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2585&start=0 2585] Define list of machine-processable artifacts for membership benefit - Ken will follow up with Stan on who is the Marketing committee chair and the Board's intent with the list
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#*Freida will draft PSS for [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/8220/12009/%48%4c%37%20%52%69%73%6b%20%41%6e%61%6c%79%73%69%73%20%50%53%53%5f%50%4b%5f%50%56%20%56%32%2e%64%6f%63%78 Positioning Security Risk Analysis standard within HL7] and circulate to TSC
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#Approval items for e-vote prior to next call on June 2:
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3233/11962/PSS_CDAR2_Reaffirmation%2020140505.doc Project approval request] of ''CDA R2 Reaffirmation'' for SDWG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1094 Project Insight # 1094] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3233&start=0 TSC Tracker #3233]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3231/11956/%48%4c%37%20%50%72%6f%6a%65%63%74%20%53%63%6f%70%65%20%53%74%61%74%65%6d%65%6e%74%5f%45%55%2d%55%53%5f%76%32%20%30%20%32%30%31%34%30%35%30%35%2e%64%6f%63 Project approval request] of ''International Patient Summary template'' for SDWG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1087 Project Insight # 1087] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3231&start=0 TSC Tracker #3231]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3272/12002/%41%4e%53%49%5f%70%72%6f%70%6f%73%61%6c%5f%77%69%74%68%64%72%61%77%61%6c%20%50%41%5f%53%63%68%65%64%6c%75%69%6e%67%20%43%4d%45%54%73%2e%64%6f%63 Withdrawal request] of ''HL7 Version 3 Standard: Scheduling CMETs, Release 10'' for Patient Administration WG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=459 Project Insight # 459] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3272&start=0 TSC Tracker #3272]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3273/12003/%41%4e%53%49%5f%70%72%6f%70%6f%73%61%6c%5f%77%69%74%68%64%72%61%77%61%6c%20%50%41%5f%49%6e%64%65%72%64%65%70%65%6e%64%65%6e%74%5f%52%65%67%69%73%74%72%69%65%73%2e%64%6f%63 Withdrawal request] of ''HL7 Version 3 Domain Analysis Model: Patient Administration; Interdependent Registries, Release 1'' for Patient Administration WG of SSD SD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=725 Project Insight # 725] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3273&start=0 TSC Tracker #3273]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3277/12004/%48%4c%37%46%48%49%52%2d%50%53%53%5f%50%43%57%47%2d%52%65%66%65%72%72%61%6c%5f%32%30%31%34%2d%30%34%2d%31%30%5f%50%43%57%47%2d%61%70%70%72%6f%76%65%64%5f%76%30%33%2e%64%6f%63 Project Approval request] of (pending FMG approval) ''Patient Care WG Develop FHIR resources and profiles for the second DSTU release'' for Patient Care WG of DESD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1105 Project Insight # 1105] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3277&start=0 TSC Tracker #3277]
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/3278/12005/%48%4c%37%46%48%49%52%2d%50%53%53%5f%48%43%44%2d%44%65%76%69%63%65%41%6c%61%72%6d%5f%61%6e%64%5f%43%6f%6e%74%72%6f%6c%5f%32%30%31%34%2d%30%34%2d%33%30%5f%48%43%44%57%47%2d%64%72%61%66%74%5f%76%30%37%2e%64%6f%63 Project Approval request] of (pending FMG approval) '' ''Health Care Devices to Develop FHIR resources and profiles for the second DSTU release'' for Health Care Devices WG of DESD at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=1103 Project Insight # 1103] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3278&start=0 TSC Tracker #3278]
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#Discussion topics:
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#*TSC Three-year planning - do we need to review it?
 +
#*WG Health – Impact on SD project approval
 +
#**See [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/projectServices/PBSMetricGuidanceforSDCoChairsFinal.doc PBS Metrics Guidance for SD Co-Chairs]
 +
#*Determine the next 2-4 profiles for Conformance Testing (candidate topics: LRI, CDA R2, EHR-S FM, EHR-S FPs).
 +
#Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
 +
#*From the Co-Chair calendar for the cycle, now available at [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Co-Chair_Handbook_Information Co-Chair Handbook Information] on the HL7 wiki
 +
#**2014-05-16 WGM room request deadline - see [http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?MeetingRoomRequestForm Request Form]
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#**2014-05-18 New Project Scope deadline for 2014Sep ballot cycle (http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?ProjectScopeStatement)
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#**2014-05-23 Meeting minutes posting deadline (http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?UploadMinutes)
 
===Next Steps===
 
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TSC Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

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NEW GoToMeeting ID: 426-505-829

Date: 2014-05-19
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Ken McCaslin Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Ken McCaslin x Tony Julian x Jean Duteau x Austin Kreisler
regrets John Quinn x Lorraine Constable x Giorgio Cangioli .
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
regrets Melva Peters regrets Woody Beeler x Calvin Beebe x Freida Hall
regrets John Roberts x Paul Knapp x Pat van Dyke x Andy Stechishin
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Stan Huff (HL7 Chair) w/vote . . obs1 x Lynn Laakso
. Don Mon (Vice Chair) vote . . . obs2 .
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote . . . .

Agenda

Housekeeping

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval -
  3. Approve Minutes of

Governance

  1. Discussion topics:
    • Who has responsibilities to define new product definition: Project Services noticed we currently have 19 projects with “New Product Definition”. (Freida)
    • Conformance profile development by volunteers (Ken)

Management

  1. Review action items –
    • Ken will clarify with Karen on permissibility of dot releases with ANSI and approaches for technical corrections.
    • Andy is assigned review of the GOM on naming conventions with Publishing. Review again in September.
    • Need to extract the errata publication guidance from the 2013-01-12 minutes and TSC Tracker 2403 and review and make available.
    • the International Council was told the TSC would identify the next conformance profiles and the TSC should discuss further. Ken to speak to Chuck about it.
    • Woody report back on collaboration with ARB and MnM to narrow the scope of the SAIF IG to allow completion of the project in a reasonable period of time.
    • 2585 Define list of machine-processable artifacts for membership benefit - Ken will follow up with Stan on who is the Marketing committee chair and the Board's intent with the list
    • Freida will draft PSS for Positioning Security Risk Analysis standard within HL7 and circulate to TSC
  2. Approval items:
  3. Approval items for e-vote prior to next call on June 2:
  4. Discussion topics:
    • TSC Three-year planning - do we need to review it?
    • WG Health – Impact on SD project approval
    • Determine the next 2-4 profiles for Conformance Testing (candidate topics: LRI, CDA R2, EHR-S FM, EHR-S FPs).
  5. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  6. Open Issues List

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Ken convenes at 11:02 AM

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) no visitors
  2. Agenda review and approval - - defer minutes until DESD available.

Governance

  1. Discussion topics:
    • Who has responsibilities to define new product definition: Project Services noticed we currently have 19 projects with “New Product Definition”. (Freida)
      • Checkbox on project scope statement - what happens next? Who defines it? Austin notes there is some confusion about what that means and suggests removing the check boxes and offering free text to describe the products the project will produce. The guidance in the PSS for that section points them to the products section of the web site and the seven primary categories on the introduction page. Freida asks when such a new product definition is brought up on a PSS, is Project Services supposed to look at that, or review with the Steering Division or some other review?
      • Should this be new product family instead of new product? A new IG for CCDA is not a new product. IT should indicate for a new product family/line and a text area to describe how it is different and then point them in the guidance to the definition of a product family and product line from the BAM.
    • Conformance profile development by volunteers (Ken)
      • Ken doing some research on whether conformance profile development can be adequately performed using only volunteer work; the first one cost about $40k to develop.
      • Jean disclaims he received the work from the first bid which was fixed price from HQ. If Chuck intends to develop four more profiles for September, you won't get the quality from a volunteer effort that you would get from a dedicated funded developer.
      • Ken asks about how well the $40k covered the work? Jean notes that there is economy of scale so that three more would not need $120k to cover; they worked with Aegis to determine what was needed but they only produced one scenario from the implementation guide, not all the use cases of the IG.
      • Lorraine notes that with a timeframe of a project schedule to review on volunteer reviewers was difficult and resulted in delay of deliverables. Further discussion ensued.
      • Discussion of the cost/revenue options and interest (both US Realm and International) in the next profiles resulted in desire for market research. FHIR is of great interest but no FHIR profiles available to constrain adequately at this time. With free reference implementations available then paid conformance testing may not be marketable.
      • Paul says we need to evaluate based on the pain that can be alleviated by the selection. LRI, CDA R2 IG, Immunization Guide additional cases. Paul asks what mandated exchange (current or proposed) that is not working well for people? If not then what is the value of conformance testing. Large scale CDA exchange between providers is suggested by Austin.
      • ACTION ITEM: Ken and Calvin will address the potential for a survey.


Defer remaining topics to next call; Adjourned 11:59 AM

Management

  1. Review action items –
    • Ken will clarify with Karen on permissibility of dot releases with ANSI and approaches for technical corrections.
    • Andy is assigned review of the GOM on naming conventions with Publishing. Review again in September.
    • Need to extract the errata publication guidance from the 2013-01-12 minutes and TSC Tracker 2403 and review and make available.
    • the International Council was told the TSC would identify the next conformance profiles and the TSC should discuss further. Ken to speak to Chuck about it.
    • Woody report back on collaboration with ARB and MnM to narrow the scope of the SAIF IG to allow completion of the project in a reasonable period of time.
    • 2585 Define list of machine-processable artifacts for membership benefit - Ken will follow up with Stan on who is the Marketing committee chair and the Board's intent with the list
    • Freida will draft PSS for Positioning Security Risk Analysis standard within HL7 and circulate to TSC
  2. Approval items for e-vote prior to next call on June 2:
  3. Discussion topics:
    • TSC Three-year planning - do we need to review it?
    • WG Health – Impact on SD project approval
    • Determine the next 2-4 profiles for Conformance Testing (candidate topics: LRI, CDA R2, EHR-S FM, EHR-S FPs).
  4. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items


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