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#'''Min Feb 22''' Approved (Tony/Sandy) with no objections. | #'''Min Feb 22''' Approved (Tony/Sandy) with no objections. | ||
#'''ITS R2B PSS''' | #'''ITS R2B PSS''' | ||
| − | ##Paul Knapp | + | ##Paul Knapp - Project scope is to provide its specifications that are wire-backwards-compatible to ITS Structures R1.1. |
| + | ##Tony Assumed Chair: Woody/Mnm raised questions - refered to [[MnM_Minutes_CC_20110302]]. | ||
| + | ##Woody: What happens if i send a full-featured R@ to a RR1 parser? | ||
| + | ##Paul: It will blow up. | ||
| + | ##Gunther: It may have unknown behaviour. | ||
| + | ##Paul: It will look the same. If not, it would not be backward-compatible. | ||
| + | ##Woody: We dont have a v3 rule to ignores things you dont recognize. It should be used for backward-compatibility, not for new implementations, and not a true fork. | ||
| + | ##Gunther: the fork exists - people will have to deal with two its's. | ||
| + | ##Paul: I see the end of one thing, and the start of another: | ||
| + | #Elise:SDL is a standard. FDA has implemented. As new partners come on, we add new functionality. Using the old specification is no change. Adding a component for devices - providers want to add on new functionality without retooling. | ||
| + | ##Woody: From the HL7 this should be limited to use cases like you state, but not for all new specifications. HL7's perspective is using datatypes-r2 using itsr2 is the direction. | ||
| + | ##Gunther Schadow:The issue from the FDA perspective is that there is a whole array of products being used by FDA. They would like to re-use the XML. | ||
| + | ##Woody: If all new medications have to use this ITS it will destroy the ability to build interoerable standards. Long term, pharmacey needs to be in data-types R2. | ||
| + | ##Gunther: CDA has the same issue. | ||
| + | ##Paul: V2 people have the same issue. Should we require v2 coralaries for all v3 material. | ||
| + | ##Gunther: That is what is being done. | ||
| + | ##Paul: You should not buy an ipad2 now because the ipad3 will come out next fall? If we are going to take a position that the world must not change, then there is no point for V3.I see no problems with the items from MnM being used as guidelines. | ||
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#'''Ebxml R2 PSS''' | #'''Ebxml R2 PSS''' | ||
#'''Info Model Propoerties PSS''' | #'''Info Model Propoerties PSS''' | ||
Revision as of 17:47, 8 March 2011
Fndn&Tech Steering Divn - Conference Call (date above)
Meeting Information
- Conference Call is scheduled for 0.5 hour,
- Tuesday 12:00 PM to be repeated every other week
- Please consult http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock for your local times
- HL7 Conference Call Service
- Phone Number: +1 770-657-9270 (Passcode: 943627)
- Online Meeting Service - GoToMeeting
- https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/385800034 (GoToMeeting ID: 385-800-034)
Steering Division Members:
- Application Integration & Design (AID)
- Implementable Technology Specifications (ITS)
- Conformance & Guidance for Implementation/Testing(CGIT)
- Infrastructure & Messaging (InM)
- Modeling & Methodology (MnM)
- Security
- Service Oriented Architecture (SOA)
- Templates
- Vocabulary
Attendees
| P. | Committee |
| Implementable Technology Specifications (ITS) | |
| X | Paul Knapp |
| X | Dale Nelson |
| . | Andy Stechishin |
| Implementation/Conformance | |
| . | Wendy Huang |
| . | Frank Oemig |
| . | Melva Peters |
| . | Rober Snelick |
| Infrastructure and Messaging | |
| . | Patrick Loyd |
| X | Tony Julian |
| . | Dave Shaver |
| X | Sandy Stuart |
| Modeling & Methodology (MnM) | |
| X | Woody Beeler |
| . | Jean Duteau |
| . | Lloyd McKenzie |
| . | Ravi Tatarajan |
| . | Ioan Singureanu |
| RIM-Based Application Architecture (RIMBAA) | |
| . | Peter Hendler MD |
| . | Amnon Shabo PhD |
| . | Rene Spronk |
| Security | |
| . | Bernd Blobel PhD |
| X | John Moehrke |
| Service Oriented Architecture (SOA) | |
| . | Don Jorgenson |
| . | Ken Rubin |
| . | Ann Wrightson |
| . | Galen Mulrooney |
| Templates | |
| . | Mark Shafarman |
| . | Douglas Baird |
| Vocabulary | |
| . | James Case |
| . | Heather Grain |
| . | Russell Hamm |
| . | William Ted Klein |
| X | Beverly Knight |
| . | Rob Hausam |
| Guests | |
| X | Lynn Laakso |
| X | Gunther Shadow |
| X | Theresa Brunone |
| X | Randy Levin |
| X | Keith Thomas |
| X | Peggy Lesizer |
| X | Lee Stevens |
| . | .=Absent |
Agenda
- (05 min) Roll Call
- (05 min) Approve Previous Minutes & Accept Agenda
- (15 min) Min Feb 22
- (15 min) ITS R2B PSS
- (15 min) Ebxml R2 PSS
- (5 min) Info Model Propoerties PSS
- (5 min) MLLP Refresh PSS
Agenda items
Action Item List
Minutes
- Approve Previous Minutes & Accept Agenda
- Min Feb 22 Approved (Tony/Sandy) with no objections.
- ITS R2B PSS
- Paul Knapp - Project scope is to provide its specifications that are wire-backwards-compatible to ITS Structures R1.1.
- Tony Assumed Chair: Woody/Mnm raised questions - refered to MnM_Minutes_CC_20110302.
- Woody: What happens if i send a full-featured R@ to a RR1 parser?
- Paul: It will blow up.
- Gunther: It may have unknown behaviour.
- Paul: It will look the same. If not, it would not be backward-compatible.
- Woody: We dont have a v3 rule to ignores things you dont recognize. It should be used for backward-compatibility, not for new implementations, and not a true fork.
- Gunther: the fork exists - people will have to deal with two its's.
- Paul: I see the end of one thing, and the start of another:
- Elise:SDL is a standard. FDA has implemented. As new partners come on, we add new functionality. Using the old specification is no change. Adding a component for devices - providers want to add on new functionality without retooling.
- Woody: From the HL7 this should be limited to use cases like you state, but not for all new specifications. HL7's perspective is using datatypes-r2 using itsr2 is the direction.
- Gunther Schadow:The issue from the FDA perspective is that there is a whole array of products being used by FDA. They would like to re-use the XML.
- Woody: If all new medications have to use this ITS it will destroy the ability to build interoerable standards. Long term, pharmacey needs to be in data-types R2.
- Gunther: CDA has the same issue.
- Paul: V2 people have the same issue. Should we require v2 coralaries for all v3 material.
- Gunther: That is what is being done.
- Paul: You should not buy an ipad2 now because the ipad3 will come out next fall? If we are going to take a position that the world must not change, then there is no point for V3.I see no problems with the items from MnM being used as guidelines.
- Ebxml R2 PSS
- Info Model Propoerties PSS
- MLLP Refresh PSS