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#*S&I Structured Data Capture discussion (Jennifer Sisto, 10 minutes)
 
#*S&I Structured Data Capture discussion (Jennifer Sisto, 10 minutes)
 
#*HL7 Membership requirements for Governance/Management group appointments
 
#*HL7 Membership requirements for Governance/Management group appointments
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====Management====
 
====Management====
 
#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
 
#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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Convened 11:03 AM
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) John Roberts, Farrah Darbouze and Jennifer Sisto of ONC have joined for a presentation. Brian Pech observing.
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#Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler reviews; accepted by general consent.
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#Approve Minutes of [[2013-09-09 TSC Call Agenda]] unanimously approved.
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====Governance====
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<!--  Governance      -->
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<!--  Discussion  -->
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#Discussion topics:
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#*S&I Structured Data Capture discussion (Farrah Darbouze, 10 minutes)
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#**EHR is meeting with SDC on Thursday Q1 (1st half of quarter). CQI - Wednesday Q2, PHER - Tuesday Q4; SD - Thursday Q1 (second half of quarter)
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#**Austin asks what HL7 standards they are working with - an IG typically instructs users on implementation of a standard. Farrah notes they are not constraining HL7 standards for the initial IG. Austin adds that mislabeled content in other S&I ballots has caused problems in the past and needs to be properly categorized. XML schemas and serialization are ITS components, for example. Jean notes they have had similar discussions recently. It may be a new product, while using some CDA or SOA work it is not like other standards HL7 produces and the timelines are very short. Woody feels it is a short timeframe for any standard development. Coherence between the four forms they intend to define is also at issue. Farrah notes that NLM is working with them as well to bridge the gap. Jennifer notes that to focus on the syntax and not the semantics, but to show the structure of the expression for interchange requirements. It is more closely related to a profile but they can name it a base standard if that is more appropriate. Woody notes that IHE profiles are a profile of existing standards for data structures and also doesn't create new ones.
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#**Austin adds they should meet and review with ITS (going from model to wire format), MnM to review the modeling for V3 and content; FHIR, if that is the standards they will constrain and profile. They may also need to work with SOA as well. The others are more about the domain content. They will need to review their use of the ISO/HL7 Datatypes. He further adds that HL7 has established a US Realm Task Force to help deal with these projects and timelines for balloting can be coordinated with other projects. When do they think they will ballot? Spring or fall - May or September cycle. The sooner they can draft their HL7 Project scope statements the sooner they can get that moving. Farrah notes they have a draft PSS started and how do we think they need to break it up? That's a question for the US Realm Task Force, Wednesday at 5 PM. John Quinn also will check in with Jennifer when he's in their offices to offer some guidance.
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#*HL7 Membership requirements for Governance/Management group appointments
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#**Does such a membership require one be a voting member as compared to an employee of an organizational member? Co-chairs, for example, do not have to be voting members. Affiliates for example have a limited number of voting members. CAN used to have only 6 for example. Being a member of an affiliate does not automatically allow you to be a voting member of HL7 International. For members of an organization, do we need to get affirmation from the key member of an organization to confirm their eligibility. John Quinn notes this should probably go through the membership committee and the Board for policy setting.
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====Management====
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#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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#*Updated [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/7516/10904/%48%4c%37%5f%50%75%62%6c%69%63%61%74%69%6f%6e%5f%52%65%71%75%65%73%74%5f%54%65%6d%70%6c%61%74%65%5f%32%30%31%33%53%65%70%2e%64%6f%63%78 publication request template] for indicating DSTU update
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#**Revision crafted; Woody moves approval of document, seconded by John. Unanimously approved.
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<!--    Management      -->
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<!--    Approvals  -->
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#Approval items:
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<!--  Management      -->
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<!--  Discussion  -->
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#Discussion topics:
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#*Governance and Management Group Health Metrics [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/frsrelease/1024/10881/TSC_WGH_governance_management_health_tracking.pdf draft]
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#**Questions for TSC: Rep at TSC - measure both %CC attend and F2F attendance as we do with Steering Divisions.
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#**Scoring: of 13 measures do we use the same 0-3 green, 4-7 yellow, 8> red?
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#**We'll have to continue discussion on how to apply measures to these groups. We'll look at it again in Cambridge.
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#*Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/7514/10891/%32%30%31%33%53%65%70%5f%54%53%43%6d%6f%72%6e%69%6e%67%5f%73%6c%69%64%65%73%76%31%2e%70%70%74%78 TSC slides] for general session room
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#**Add slides for TRAC? Permanent subcommittee - BAM? US Realm Task Force
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#Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
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#*Content Review team/ US Realm Task Force - Ken reports the vMR CDS group has met with/is scheduled to meet with all the groups they were requested. They have worked out the last details with Templates notes Lorraine. They will next be reviewing the presentation from today on SDC.
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#*TRAC - we lost Pat
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#*BAM - meeting this week
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#*Congratulations to InM of FTSD for their readiness for normative publication of HL7 Version 3 Standard: Abstract Transport Specification, Release 1 from Project Insight # 883.
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#*Ballot quality plans from reconciliation 'mining' - group needs to meet; can look at this in Cambridge
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#WGM Planning - TSC agendas:
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#**[[2013-09-21 TSC WGM Agenda]], Saturday Meeting including time for Chuck Jaffe to talk about membership benefits TBD.
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#**[[2013-09-22_TSC_WGM_SDO_Activities_Agenda|2013-09-22 TSC Activities with Other SDOs]] Sunday Q4 - Scott Robertson is running with this for this cycle.
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#**[[2013-09-22_TSC_WGM_Agenda]] - Sunday Evening Meeting includes FHIR and ArB.
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#**[[2013-09-23_TSC_WGM_Agenda]] - Monday Co-Chairs Meeting - last chance for requests - need a slot for Chuck Jaffe to review membership benefits; Austin will review guidance on DSTU updates.
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#**[[2013-09-25_TSC_WGM_Agenda]] - Wednesday Luncheon Meeting - any work groups we need to invite? No WGs neglected to post minutes!
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#** Product Line Architecture meeting Weds Q3
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#**[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=20130925_SAIF_AP_Meeting 2013-09-25 SAIF AP Mtg] at 2013SepWGM Weds Q4
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#[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=313 Open Issues List]
  
  
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. Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote x John Roberts x Farrah Darbouze x Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote x Jennifer Sisto x Brian Pech .
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote . . . .

Agenda

Housekeeping

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2013-09-09 TSC Call Agenda

Governance

  1. Discussion topics:
    • S&I Structured Data Capture discussion (Jennifer Sisto, 10 minutes)
    • HL7 Membership requirements for Governance/Management group appointments

Management

  1. Review action items –
  2. Approval items:
  3. Discussion topics:
    • Governance and Management Group Health Metrics draft
    • Review TSC slides for general session room
  4. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
    • Content Review team/ US Realm Task Force
    • TRAC
    • BAM
    • Congratulations to InM of FTSD for their readiness for normative publication of HL7 Version 3 Standard: Abstract Transport Specification, Release 1 from Project Insight # 883.
    • Ballot quality plans from reconciliation 'mining' - group needs to meet
  5. WGM Planning - TSC agendas:
  6. Open Issues List

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Convened 11:03 AM

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) John Roberts, Farrah Darbouze and Jennifer Sisto of ONC have joined for a presentation. Brian Pech observing.
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler reviews; accepted by general consent.
  3. Approve Minutes of 2013-09-09 TSC Call Agenda unanimously approved.

Governance

  1. Discussion topics:
    • S&I Structured Data Capture discussion (Farrah Darbouze, 10 minutes)
      • EHR is meeting with SDC on Thursday Q1 (1st half of quarter). CQI - Wednesday Q2, PHER - Tuesday Q4; SD - Thursday Q1 (second half of quarter)
      • Austin asks what HL7 standards they are working with - an IG typically instructs users on implementation of a standard. Farrah notes they are not constraining HL7 standards for the initial IG. Austin adds that mislabeled content in other S&I ballots has caused problems in the past and needs to be properly categorized. XML schemas and serialization are ITS components, for example. Jean notes they have had similar discussions recently. It may be a new product, while using some CDA or SOA work it is not like other standards HL7 produces and the timelines are very short. Woody feels it is a short timeframe for any standard development. Coherence between the four forms they intend to define is also at issue. Farrah notes that NLM is working with them as well to bridge the gap. Jennifer notes that to focus on the syntax and not the semantics, but to show the structure of the expression for interchange requirements. It is more closely related to a profile but they can name it a base standard if that is more appropriate. Woody notes that IHE profiles are a profile of existing standards for data structures and also doesn't create new ones.
      • Austin adds they should meet and review with ITS (going from model to wire format), MnM to review the modeling for V3 and content; FHIR, if that is the standards they will constrain and profile. They may also need to work with SOA as well. The others are more about the domain content. They will need to review their use of the ISO/HL7 Datatypes. He further adds that HL7 has established a US Realm Task Force to help deal with these projects and timelines for balloting can be coordinated with other projects. When do they think they will ballot? Spring or fall - May or September cycle. The sooner they can draft their HL7 Project scope statements the sooner they can get that moving. Farrah notes they have a draft PSS started and how do we think they need to break it up? That's a question for the US Realm Task Force, Wednesday at 5 PM. John Quinn also will check in with Jennifer when he's in their offices to offer some guidance.
    • HL7 Membership requirements for Governance/Management group appointments
      • Does such a membership require one be a voting member as compared to an employee of an organizational member? Co-chairs, for example, do not have to be voting members. Affiliates for example have a limited number of voting members. CAN used to have only 6 for example. Being a member of an affiliate does not automatically allow you to be a voting member of HL7 International. For members of an organization, do we need to get affirmation from the key member of an organization to confirm their eligibility. John Quinn notes this should probably go through the membership committee and the Board for policy setting.

Management

  1. Review action items –
    • Updated publication request template for indicating DSTU update
      • Revision crafted; Woody moves approval of document, seconded by John. Unanimously approved.
  2. Approval items:
  3. Discussion topics:
    • Governance and Management Group Health Metrics draft
      • Questions for TSC: Rep at TSC - measure both %CC attend and F2F attendance as we do with Steering Divisions.
      • Scoring: of 13 measures do we use the same 0-3 green, 4-7 yellow, 8> red?
      • We'll have to continue discussion on how to apply measures to these groups. We'll look at it again in Cambridge.
    • Review TSC slides for general session room
      • Add slides for TRAC? Permanent subcommittee - BAM? US Realm Task Force
  4. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
    • Content Review team/ US Realm Task Force - Ken reports the vMR CDS group has met with/is scheduled to meet with all the groups they were requested. They have worked out the last details with Templates notes Lorraine. They will next be reviewing the presentation from today on SDC.
    • TRAC - we lost Pat
    • BAM - meeting this week
    • Congratulations to InM of FTSD for their readiness for normative publication of HL7 Version 3 Standard: Abstract Transport Specification, Release 1 from Project Insight # 883.
    • Ballot quality plans from reconciliation 'mining' - group needs to meet; can look at this in Cambridge
  5. WGM Planning - TSC agendas:
  6. Open Issues List


Next Steps

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