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|?||Calvin Beebe||HL7 SSD SD Co-Chair
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|?||Woody Beeler||HL7 FTSD Co-Chair
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|?||Bob Dolin||HL7 Board Chair
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|?||Freida Hall||invited guest, HL7 T3SD SD Co-Chair-elect
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|?||Tony Julian||HL7 FTSD Co-Chair
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|regrets||Tony Julian||HL7 FTSD Co-Chair
 
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|?||Austin Kreisler||HL7 TSC Chair, DESD Co-Chair
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|?||Lynn Laakso ||HL7 staff support
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|?||Ken McCaslin||HL7 T3SD Co-Chair
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|?||Charlie Mead||HL7 ArB Chair
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|?||Ravi Natarajan||HL7 Affiliate Representative
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|?||John Quinn||HL7 CTO
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|?||Ed Tripp||HL7 DESD Co-Chair
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|?||Pat Van Dyke||HL7 SSD SD Co-Chair
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|?||Mead Walker||invited guest, HL7 DESD SD Co-Chair-elect
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
 
#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
 
#Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
 
#Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
#Approve Minutes
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#Approve Minutes of [[2011-10-03 TSC Call Agenda]]
 
#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
 
#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1978&start=0 1978] - Update ballot guidance document on reference to "Implementation Guide"; next steps?
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#*From last meeting:
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#** John asks Charlie to write up a half-page justification for him to use in requesting the SAIF CD be published for public reference
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#** Patrick will inform Tooling that since external communication is needed that the communication plan approval process be documented.
 
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#*(Ken) California HealthCare Foundation (CHCF) will turn over Intellectual Property (IP) to HL7 for the ELINCS Lab Order Message Implementation Guide (IG) for the purpose of balloting it as a DSTU and the document can be distributed to the voters for their review. CHCF will maintain IP rights so that they can respond to the DSTU comments and the input from the pilots to update the document to be presented to HL7 upon completion of the pilot as release 2 of the document to become a Normative Ballot.  This makes sense to me since CHCF is willing to do the heavy lifting and is bringing the document to HL7 to help facilitate engagement of the greater community at major milestones of their development cycle. It benefits HL7 as well as the greater healthcare community to have shared IP when organizations are actively promoting a trial use of their work efforts. If the TSC agrees, can we fast track this through the Executive Committee?
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#*TSC Guidance on Ballot levels - [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=TSC_Guidance_on_Ballot_Levels feedback wiki page], please promote in your Steering Divisions.
 
#Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
 
#Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
 
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===Minutes===
 
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'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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Call to order at 11:03 AM
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) no guests announced themselves.
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#Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler; approved by general consent
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#Approve Minutes of [[2011-10-03 TSC Call Agenda]]
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#*'''Vote: ''' unanimously approved
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#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1978&start=0 1978] - Update ballot guidance document on reference to "Implementation Guide"; next steps?
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#**Wiki page set up to gather comments at http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=TSC_Guidance_on_Ballot_Levels. Comments period will close November 30th. Ed suggests that with cochair notices we send reminders to make their suggestions.
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#*From last meeting:
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#** John asks Charlie to write up a half-page justification for him to use in requesting the SAIF CD be published for public reference. Charlie reports this is completed and John notes that it was received.
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#** Patrick will inform Tooling that since external communication is needed that the communication plan approval process be documented. Patrick notes that this was completed.
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#*'''Motion: ''' Approve Project Requests for PC: Care Provision - at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2049&start=0 TSC Tracker # 2049]
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2049/8752/HL7PSSCareProvisionCareRecord-Normative-Sept28-2011.doc Care Record Topic to normative ballot], at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=810 Project Insight # 810]
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2049/8753/HL7PSSCareProvisionCareRecordQuery-Normative-Sept282011.doc Care Record Query Topic to normative ballot], at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=811 Project Insight # 811]
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2049/8754/HL7PSSCareProvisionCareTransfer-Normative-Sept282011.doc Care Transfer Topic to normative ballot], at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=812 Project Insight # 812]
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2049/8755/HL7PSSCareProvisionD-MIM-Normative-Sept282011.docx D-MIM to normative ballot], at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=813 Project Insight # 813]
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#**Ed amends the motion on the care record to include the condition that the withdrawal of the previous project for ANSI purposes be completed in a timely manner. Woody seconds. Woody notes that we’ve never tried to ballot a DMIM individually but usually as part of a domain, where the domain is not being balloted but as topics. Austin and Ed note that Clinical Statement offers a precedent. There are not enough resources in the committee to do everything at once so it must be broken into topics.
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#*:'''Vote on amended motion, for all four projects: ''' unanimously approved.
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#*Brian joins.
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#*'''Motion: ''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2069/8759/HL7V251DeathReportingIGPublication_Request_2011Sept.doc DSTU Publication Request] for 24 months for PHER of DESD: ''HL7 Version 2.5.1 Implementation Guide: Vital Records Death Reporting, R1'', at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=735 PI # 735]
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#*:'''Vote: ''' unanimously approved
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#*'''Motion:''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2072/8772/CVDAMR3_HL7PSS_CICApproved15SEP2011.doc Project Scope Statement] for CIC of DESD: ''Cardiology Domain Analysis Model Release 3'', at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=815 PI # 815], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2072 TSC Tracker # 2072]
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#**Austin notes the release 3 is an update to an existing project, that could be closed. R2 was project ID 726, which is still open and just balloted in 2011September. They are still conducting reconciliation. Austin just wants to make sure the current project is closed out properly before Release 3 goes to ballot.  ACTION ITEM: Ed will communicate that to the co-chairs of CIC.
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#*:'''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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#Discussion topics:
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#*(Ken) California HealthCare Foundation (CHCF) will turn over Intellectual Property (IP) to HL7 for the ELINCS Lab Order Message Implementation Guide (IG) for the purpose of balloting it as a DSTU and the document can be distributed to the voters for their review. CHCF will maintain IP rights so that they can respond to the DSTU comments and the input from the pilots to update the document to be presented to HL7 upon completion of the pilot as release 2 of the document to become a Normative Ballot.  This makes sense to me since CHCF is willing to do the heavy lifting and is bringing the document to HL7 to help facilitate engagement of the greater community at major milestones of their development cycle. It benefits HL7 as well as the greater healthcare community to have shared IP when organizations are actively promoting a trial use of their work efforts. If the TSC agrees, can we fast track this through the Executive Committee?
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#**Austin provides history of the development of the ELINCS IG. Patrick also participated on this development.  Extensive discussion ensued with '''Motion''' by Woody: TSC believes that a collaborative project with CHCF to develop the DSTU balloted under O&O, which makes strong technical sense, and look forward to receiving a PSS once the IP questions are resolved in consultation with the Executive Committee. Second by Ken. '''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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#*TSC Guidance on Ballot levels - [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=TSC_Guidance_on_Ballot_Levels feedback wiki page], please promote in your Steering Divisions.
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Adjourned 11:47 AM EDT.
  
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Latest revision as of 16:15, 17 October 2011

TSC Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 124466#
GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206

Date: 2011-010-10
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Attendee Name Affiliation
x Calvin Beebe HL7 SSD SD Co-Chair
x Woody Beeler HL7 FTSD Co-Chair
Bob Dolin HL7 Board Chair
Freida Hall invited guest, HL7 T3SD SD Co-Chair-elect
regrets Tony Julian HL7 FTSD Co-Chair
x Austin Kreisler HL7 TSC Chair, DESD Co-Chair
x Lynn Laakso HL7 staff support
x Patrick Loyd HL7 T3SD Co-Chair
2nd half Ken McCaslin HL7 T3SD Co-Chair
1st half Charlie Mead HL7 ArB Chair
regrets Ravi Natarajan HL7 Affiliate Representative
Ron Parker HL7 ArB Alternate
x John Quinn HL7 CTO
x Ed Tripp HL7 DESD Co-Chair
x Pat Van Dyke HL7 SSD SD Co-Chair
Mead Walker invited guest, HL7 DESD SD Co-Chair-elect
Jay Zimmerman HL7 Affiliate Representative
x Brian Pech observer


Quorum Requirements (Chair +5 with 2 SD Reps) Met: yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2011-10-03 TSC Call Agenda
  4. Review action items
    • 1978 - Update ballot guidance document on reference to "Implementation Guide"; next steps?
    • From last meeting:
      • John asks Charlie to write up a half-page justification for him to use in requesting the SAIF CD be published for public reference
      • Patrick will inform Tooling that since external communication is needed that the communication plan approval process be documented.
  5. Approval items:
  6. Discussion topics:
    • (Ken) California HealthCare Foundation (CHCF) will turn over Intellectual Property (IP) to HL7 for the ELINCS Lab Order Message Implementation Guide (IG) for the purpose of balloting it as a DSTU and the document can be distributed to the voters for their review. CHCF will maintain IP rights so that they can respond to the DSTU comments and the input from the pilots to update the document to be presented to HL7 upon completion of the pilot as release 2 of the document to become a Normative Ballot. This makes sense to me since CHCF is willing to do the heavy lifting and is bringing the document to HL7 to help facilitate engagement of the greater community at major milestones of their development cycle. It benefits HL7 as well as the greater healthcare community to have shared IP when organizations are actively promoting a trial use of their work efforts. If the TSC agrees, can we fast track this through the Executive Committee?
    • TSC Guidance on Ballot levels - feedback wiki page, please promote in your Steering Divisions.
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  8. Open Issues List


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Call to order at 11:03 AM

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) no guests announced themselves.
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler; approved by general consent
  3. Approve Minutes of 2011-10-03 TSC Call Agenda
    • Vote: unanimously approved
  4. Review action items
    • 1978 - Update ballot guidance document on reference to "Implementation Guide"; next steps?
    • From last meeting:
      • John asks Charlie to write up a half-page justification for him to use in requesting the SAIF CD be published for public reference. Charlie reports this is completed and John notes that it was received.
      • Patrick will inform Tooling that since external communication is needed that the communication plan approval process be documented. Patrick notes that this was completed.
  5. Approval items:
    • Motion: Approve Project Requests for PC: Care Provision - at TSC Tracker # 2049
      Vote on amended motion, for all four projects: unanimously approved.
    • Brian joins.
    • Motion: Approve DSTU Publication Request for 24 months for PHER of DESD: HL7 Version 2.5.1 Implementation Guide: Vital Records Death Reporting, R1, at PI # 735
      Vote: unanimously approved
    • Motion: Approve Project Scope Statement for CIC of DESD: Cardiology Domain Analysis Model Release 3, at PI # 815, TSC Tracker # 2072
      • Austin notes the release 3 is an update to an existing project, that could be closed. R2 was project ID 726, which is still open and just balloted in 2011September. They are still conducting reconciliation. Austin just wants to make sure the current project is closed out properly before Release 3 goes to ballot. ACTION ITEM: Ed will communicate that to the co-chairs of CIC.
      Vote: unanimously approved.
  6. Discussion topics:
    • (Ken) California HealthCare Foundation (CHCF) will turn over Intellectual Property (IP) to HL7 for the ELINCS Lab Order Message Implementation Guide (IG) for the purpose of balloting it as a DSTU and the document can be distributed to the voters for their review. CHCF will maintain IP rights so that they can respond to the DSTU comments and the input from the pilots to update the document to be presented to HL7 upon completion of the pilot as release 2 of the document to become a Normative Ballot. This makes sense to me since CHCF is willing to do the heavy lifting and is bringing the document to HL7 to help facilitate engagement of the greater community at major milestones of their development cycle. It benefits HL7 as well as the greater healthcare community to have shared IP when organizations are actively promoting a trial use of their work efforts. If the TSC agrees, can we fast track this through the Executive Committee?
      • Austin provides history of the development of the ELINCS IG. Patrick also participated on this development. Extensive discussion ensued with Motion by Woody: TSC believes that a collaborative project with CHCF to develop the DSTU balloted under O&O, which makes strong technical sense, and look forward to receiving a PSS once the IP questions are resolved in consultation with the Executive Committee. Second by Ken. Vote: unanimously approved.
    • TSC Guidance on Ballot levels - feedback wiki page, please promote in your Steering Divisions.


Adjourned 11:47 AM EDT.

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Ed will communicate that the current project should be closed out properly before Release 3 goes to ballot, to the co-chairs of CIC.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items