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| width="50%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
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'''Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 124466#'''<br/> GoToMeeting ID: [https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/165215206 165-215-206 ]
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| width="50%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 2010-05-03'''<br/> '''Time: 11:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT'''
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| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
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| width="40%" colspan="1" align="left"|Charlie McCay
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| width="25%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
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| width="25%" colspan="1" align="left"|Lynn Laakso
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| border="4" cellpadding="1" colspan="4" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|
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|-border="1" cellpadding="2" colspan="1" align="left"
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| width="10%" |'''Attendee'''
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| width="40%"|'''Name'''
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|width="25%"|'''Affiliation'''
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|width="25%"|'''Email Address'''
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|x||Calvin Beebe||HL7 SSD SD||cbeebe@mayo.edu
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|-
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|x||Woody Beeler||HL7 FTSD||woody@beelers.com
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|-
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|x||Bob Dolin||HL7 Board Chair||bobdolin@gmail.com
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|-
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|regrets||Austin Kreisler||HL7 DESD||austin.j.kreisler@saic.com
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|x||Lynn Laakso ||HL7 staff support||lynn@hl7.org
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|regrets||Ken McCaslin||HL7 TSS SD || Kenneth.H.McCaslin@QuestDiagnostics.com
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|x||Charlie McCay (chair)||HL7 TSC Chair||charlie@ramseysystems.co.uk
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|-
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|x||Charlie Mead||HL7 ArB Chair||meadch@mail.nih.gov
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|-
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|||Ravi Natarajan||HL7 Affiliate||Ravi.Natarajan@nhs.net
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|-
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|||Ron Parker||HL7 ArB Alternate||rparker@infoway-inforoute.ca
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|x||John Quinn||HL7 CTO||jquinn@hl7.org
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|x||Gregg Seppala||HL7 SSD SD Alternate||gregg.seppala@va.gov
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|-
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|x||Helen Stevens ||HL7 TSS SD Alternate||helen.stevens@shaw.ca
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|-
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|regrets||Ed Tripp||HL7 DESD Alternate||Edward.tripp@estripp.com
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|-
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|||D. Mead Walker||HL7 FTSD Alternate||dmead@comcast.net
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|colspan="4" |'''Quorum Requirements (Co-chair +5 with 2 SD Reps) Met: '''yes
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===Agenda===
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'''Agenda Topics''' <br/>
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
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#Agenda review and approval - Charlie McCay
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#Approve Minutes
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#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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#*From 2010-04-12_TSC_Call_Minutes: ACTION ITEM – Woody/Mead will CONTACT ITS and Conformance to ensure they are on board with greenCDA modules for CCD. (#1537)
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#*Lynn to draft process on project facilitators should be aware of for being present on conference calls to address any issues ([http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1543 TSC To-Do # 1543])
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#**Update: Action Item completed: This is being documented in the Project Approval Process being revised by the Project Services work group. The PSC tracker for this development is [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/psc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=778 # 778].
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#*From 2010-04-12_TSC_Call_Minutes:ACTION ITEM: Strike part about deprecating and send it to Frank, and then do a recirculation ballot. John will contact Frank. ([http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1538 TSC To-Do # 1538])
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#**Update: Proceeding with recirculation ballot.
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#* From 2010-03-29 - Action Item: Ron to pull the elevator pitch out for TSC review. [#1539]
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#*From 2010-02-22Lynn will look into options for version control for a common approach, with John’s and Austin’s help [#1544]
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# CEO Report – if available
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# CTO Report  -  John Quinn
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# ArB Report – Charlie Mead/Ron Parker
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# Affiliates Report – Ravi Natarajan
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# Domain Experts – if available
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# Foundation & Technology – Woody Beeler
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# Structure & Semantic Design – Calvin Beebe
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# Technical & Support Services - Ken McCaslin
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#WGM Planning -
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#*Marketing and promotion - update from HQ - <!-- what does HQ want the TSC to do to assist-->
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#*TSC preparations - Lynn Laakso
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#**Monday night co-chair [http://hl7tsc.org/wiki/index.php?title=2010-05-17_TSC_WGM_Agenda agenda] - review presenter topics
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#**PMO/Project Services WG Update
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#***PMO Accomplishments Since Last WGM
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#***:Project Approval Process Revisions
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#***:Searchable Project Database Enhancement
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#***:Project Review and Clean Up
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#***:Project Follow Up
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#***Introduction to SAIF and Sound:  Fast Track to Standard Development
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#**Ken/ Online Presence [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/1463/7153/ES_OP_Co-Chairslides_reviewed.ppt slides]
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#**Expecting R&I agenda
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#**Reconsider Saturday agenda to give more time to impact of ONC requirements
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#*Working Group preparations - [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=WGM_information agendas]
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#Organizational Relations Committee update ([http://www.hl7.org/concalls/index.cfm?action=home.welcome&listofwgids=112 semiweekly]) - Helen Stevens
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#Discussion Topics:
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#*TSC identify a representative to serve on the Sydney WGM Organizing Committee - at request of HL7 Chair.  The role of the TSC representative will be to liason between Sydney planning and TSC concerns around WGM productivity.
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=313 Open Issues List]
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#*NIST issues, at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1546 TSC Tracker # 1546]
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'''Supporting Documents'''<br/>
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===Minutes===
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'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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#Visitors:none
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#Agenda: approved by general consent
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#Minutes of approved by general consent
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#Action items:
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#*Woody/Mead to contact ITS and Conformance to ensure they are on board
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#**Not yet completed. Forward to another meeting; Woody won’t be on next week.
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#*Helen joins
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#*Lynn to draft process on project facilitators should be aware of for being present on conference calls to address any issues ([http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1543 TSC To-Do # 1543])
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#**Update: Action Item completed: This is being documented in the Project Approval Process being revised by the Project Services work group. The PSC tracker for this development is [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/psc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=778 # 778].
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#*From 2010-04-12_TSC_Call_Minutes:ACTION ITEM: Strike part about deprecating and send it to Frank, and then do a recirculation ballot. John will contact Frank. ([http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1538 TSC To-Do # 1538])
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#**Update: Proceeding with recirculation ballot. Has not opened, requires 30 days. Will not have results in time for discussion at the May WGM.  When will the ballot open? Need to check with Karen. John will forward a copy of the email requesting the ballot.
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#* From 2010-03-29 - Action Item: Ron to pull the elevator pitch out for TSC review. [#1539].
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#**Carry forward
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#*From 2010-02-22Lynn will look into options for version control for a common approach, with John’s and Austin’s help [#1544]
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#**Project scope statements pending review and revision need a format for providing version control. Carry forward.
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#CEO
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#CTO: John published newsletter article to AMIA last night. Covers the meeting schedule and SAIF. Attended monthly HIT Standards meeting with Jaffe.  ONC is distracted by requirement in the reform bill on creating a website for insurance plan registrations for high-risk groups. Issue of Attachments will come up in August or September and HL7 will be asked to testify.  CMS doesn’t want to do it, pushed to ONC, changed date to 2014 instead of 2011.  Probably a general query rather than specific attachment types. And John finally got his visa to go to Rio.
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#ArB- Charlie notes the peer review documents have gone out. Question asked of Charlie by Ken Buetow for a one-to –three bullet point comparison of SAIF and NIEM.  Would HL7 folks like to review? Woody notes that NIEM doesn’t work with anything modern. Charlie notes if you take the methodology and apply to modern static semantics and associated behavioral semantics it would make sense.  Woody found it defined a collaborative process for applying and adopting standards. Otherwise it’s an old data-dictionary process. Charlie suggests to forget the content developed by NIEM, and bind the idea to some formal semantics. John notes that he discussed this with Doug Fridsma some weeks ago but Ken was not in the conversation, to take NIEM and replace its information model with the RIM. Should HL7 take a formal position?  Until ONC announces the process they’re going to use with NIEM we don’t know where we fit in.  One sheet overview, reviewed by ArB with the HL7 position would be helpful.  John and Charlie Mead will work on it.
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#Affiliates: not available
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#DESD: don’t have
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#FTSD: Woody has no report.
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#SSD SD: Calvin had no report
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#T3SD: Helen had no report.
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#WGM: 188 registrants
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#*TSC asked by HQ to determine a policy for doling out the limited # of projectors and/or GoToMeeting sessions; HQ renting 10 projectors. Charlie suggests he and John discuss on Friday and come up with a recommendation for the TSC to discuss next Monday.
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#*SAIF and Sound presentation to be discussed – discussion on MnM call last Friday per Gregg.  Some issues and questions raised. Changes were made by Ioana, Lynn will send the updated version link to the list.  Put on the agenda for next week.
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#*Review Ken’s slides for discussion next week.
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#*Reconsider Saturday agenda for ONC; done.
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#ORC: met 4/26. A number of agreements expired and new agreements being made. No progress with Mohawk.  Global Harmonization Task Force starting an agreement, and ADMIS. IEEE, Liberty Alliance, Safe BioPharma, EHI expired. MedBiquitous, NAACR, NCPDP due to expire this year and will need renewal.  Need liaisons for some other groups, may have already identified liaisons but if you know of volunteers let Helen know.  Meeting in Rio on the Monday or Tuesday. 
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#*Charlie asked about the Sunday Q4 meeting with changing the ORC to organize this session “HL7 Activities with Other SDOs”. Chaired by the TSC/Charlie for Rio. Lynn will send agenda link on wiki to Helen.
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#Discussion
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#*TSC identify a representative to serve on the Sydney WGM Organizing Committee - at request of HL7 Chair.  The role of the TSC representative will be to liaison between Sydney planning and TSC concerns around WGM productivity.
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#**Helen volunteers.  Helen accepted by general consent.  Bob will send her the information.
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#**Charlie asks if we have one for Boston?  So far only have plans to do something for Sydney. Boston as a plenary will have a group working on it already.  Something to
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=313 Open Issues List]
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#*NIST issues, at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1546 TSC Tracker # 1546]
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#**Lisa Carnahan sent an email to a bunch of people in HL7 on progress on NIST’s work on requirements.  Need some coordination and visibility to respond to this important consumer. John notes that will be a primary topic to address with Lisa tomorrow.
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Adjourned 11:43 am EDT.
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===Next Steps===
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{|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
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|colspan="4" |'''Actions'''
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*John will forward a copy of the email requesting the ballot. Update: sent to Gregg.
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*John and Charlie Mead will work on a one sheet overview of SAIF vs NIEM, reviewed by ArB with the HL7 position.
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*Lynn will send the updated version link of the SAIF and Sound” to the list. 
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*Charlie and John to come up with a recommendation for the TSC to discuss next Monday on prioritizing projector lending at WGM.
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* Lynn will send agenda link on wiki to Helen on HL7 Activities with Other SDOs
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|-
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|colspan="4" |'''Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items'''<br/>
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*Likely conflict next week with ISO meetings; John will already be in Rio.
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Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 124466#
GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206

Date: 2010-05-03
Time: 11:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT
Facilitator Charlie McCay Note taker(s) Lynn Laakso
Attendee Name Affiliation Email Address
x Calvin Beebe HL7 SSD SD cbeebe@mayo.edu
x Woody Beeler HL7 FTSD woody@beelers.com
x Bob Dolin HL7 Board Chair bobdolin@gmail.com
regrets Austin Kreisler HL7 DESD austin.j.kreisler@saic.com
x Lynn Laakso HL7 staff support lynn@hl7.org
regrets Ken McCaslin HL7 TSS SD Kenneth.H.McCaslin@QuestDiagnostics.com
x Charlie McCay (chair) HL7 TSC Chair charlie@ramseysystems.co.uk
x Charlie Mead HL7 ArB Chair meadch@mail.nih.gov
Ravi Natarajan HL7 Affiliate Ravi.Natarajan@nhs.net
Ron Parker HL7 ArB Alternate rparker@infoway-inforoute.ca
x John Quinn HL7 CTO jquinn@hl7.org
x Gregg Seppala HL7 SSD SD Alternate gregg.seppala@va.gov
x Helen Stevens HL7 TSS SD Alternate helen.stevens@shaw.ca
regrets Ed Tripp HL7 DESD Alternate Edward.tripp@estripp.com
D. Mead Walker HL7 FTSD Alternate dmead@comcast.net
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair +5 with 2 SD Reps) Met: yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Charlie McCay
  3. Approve Minutes
  4. Review action items –
    • From 2010-04-12_TSC_Call_Minutes: ACTION ITEM – Woody/Mead will CONTACT ITS and Conformance to ensure they are on board with greenCDA modules for CCD. (#1537)
    • Lynn to draft process on project facilitators should be aware of for being present on conference calls to address any issues (TSC To-Do # 1543)
      • Update: Action Item completed: This is being documented in the Project Approval Process being revised by the Project Services work group. The PSC tracker for this development is # 778.
    • From 2010-04-12_TSC_Call_Minutes:ACTION ITEM: Strike part about deprecating and send it to Frank, and then do a recirculation ballot. John will contact Frank. (TSC To-Do # 1538)
      • Update: Proceeding with recirculation ballot.
    • From 2010-03-29 - Action Item: Ron to pull the elevator pitch out for TSC review. [#1539]
    • From 2010-02-22Lynn will look into options for version control for a common approach, with John’s and Austin’s help [#1544]
  5. CEO Report – if available
  6. CTO Report - John Quinn
  7. ArB Report – Charlie Mead/Ron Parker
  8. Affiliates Report – Ravi Natarajan
  9. Domain Experts – if available
  10. Foundation & Technology – Woody Beeler
  11. Structure & Semantic Design – Calvin Beebe
  12. Technical & Support Services - Ken McCaslin
  13. WGM Planning -
    • Marketing and promotion - update from HQ -
    • TSC preparations - Lynn Laakso
      • Monday night co-chair agenda - review presenter topics
      • PMO/Project Services WG Update
        • PMO Accomplishments Since Last WGM
          Project Approval Process Revisions
          Searchable Project Database Enhancement
          Project Review and Clean Up
          Project Follow Up
        • Introduction to SAIF and Sound: Fast Track to Standard Development
      • Ken/ Online Presence slides
      • Expecting R&I agenda
      • Reconsider Saturday agenda to give more time to impact of ONC requirements
    • Working Group preparations - agendas
  14. Organizational Relations Committee update (semiweekly) - Helen Stevens
  15. Discussion Topics:
    • TSC identify a representative to serve on the Sydney WGM Organizing Committee - at request of HL7 Chair. The role of the TSC representative will be to liason between Sydney planning and TSC concerns around WGM productivity.
    • Open Issues List
    • NIST issues, at TSC Tracker # 1546

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Visitors:none
  2. Agenda: approved by general consent
  3. Minutes of approved by general consent
  4. Action items:
    • Woody/Mead to contact ITS and Conformance to ensure they are on board
      • Not yet completed. Forward to another meeting; Woody won’t be on next week.
    • Helen joins
    • Lynn to draft process on project facilitators should be aware of for being present on conference calls to address any issues (TSC To-Do # 1543)
      • Update: Action Item completed: This is being documented in the Project Approval Process being revised by the Project Services work group. The PSC tracker for this development is # 778.
    • From 2010-04-12_TSC_Call_Minutes:ACTION ITEM: Strike part about deprecating and send it to Frank, and then do a recirculation ballot. John will contact Frank. (TSC To-Do # 1538)
      • Update: Proceeding with recirculation ballot. Has not opened, requires 30 days. Will not have results in time for discussion at the May WGM. When will the ballot open? Need to check with Karen. John will forward a copy of the email requesting the ballot.
    • From 2010-03-29 - Action Item: Ron to pull the elevator pitch out for TSC review. [#1539].
      • Carry forward
    • From 2010-02-22Lynn will look into options for version control for a common approach, with John’s and Austin’s help [#1544]
      • Project scope statements pending review and revision need a format for providing version control. Carry forward.
  5. CEO
  6. CTO: John published newsletter article to AMIA last night. Covers the meeting schedule and SAIF. Attended monthly HIT Standards meeting with Jaffe. ONC is distracted by requirement in the reform bill on creating a website for insurance plan registrations for high-risk groups. Issue of Attachments will come up in August or September and HL7 will be asked to testify. CMS doesn’t want to do it, pushed to ONC, changed date to 2014 instead of 2011. Probably a general query rather than specific attachment types. And John finally got his visa to go to Rio.
  7. ArB- Charlie notes the peer review documents have gone out. Question asked of Charlie by Ken Buetow for a one-to –three bullet point comparison of SAIF and NIEM. Would HL7 folks like to review? Woody notes that NIEM doesn’t work with anything modern. Charlie notes if you take the methodology and apply to modern static semantics and associated behavioral semantics it would make sense. Woody found it defined a collaborative process for applying and adopting standards. Otherwise it’s an old data-dictionary process. Charlie suggests to forget the content developed by NIEM, and bind the idea to some formal semantics. John notes that he discussed this with Doug Fridsma some weeks ago but Ken was not in the conversation, to take NIEM and replace its information model with the RIM. Should HL7 take a formal position? Until ONC announces the process they’re going to use with NIEM we don’t know where we fit in. One sheet overview, reviewed by ArB with the HL7 position would be helpful. John and Charlie Mead will work on it.
  8. Affiliates: not available
  9. DESD: don’t have
  10. FTSD: Woody has no report.
  11. SSD SD: Calvin had no report
  12. T3SD: Helen had no report.
  13. WGM: 188 registrants
    • TSC asked by HQ to determine a policy for doling out the limited # of projectors and/or GoToMeeting sessions; HQ renting 10 projectors. Charlie suggests he and John discuss on Friday and come up with a recommendation for the TSC to discuss next Monday.
    • SAIF and Sound presentation to be discussed – discussion on MnM call last Friday per Gregg. Some issues and questions raised. Changes were made by Ioana, Lynn will send the updated version link to the list. Put on the agenda for next week.
    • Review Ken’s slides for discussion next week.
    • Reconsider Saturday agenda for ONC; done.
  14. ORC: met 4/26. A number of agreements expired and new agreements being made. No progress with Mohawk. Global Harmonization Task Force starting an agreement, and ADMIS. IEEE, Liberty Alliance, Safe BioPharma, EHI expired. MedBiquitous, NAACR, NCPDP due to expire this year and will need renewal. Need liaisons for some other groups, may have already identified liaisons but if you know of volunteers let Helen know. Meeting in Rio on the Monday or Tuesday.
    • Charlie asked about the Sunday Q4 meeting with changing the ORC to organize this session “HL7 Activities with Other SDOs”. Chaired by the TSC/Charlie for Rio. Lynn will send agenda link on wiki to Helen.
  15. Discussion
    • TSC identify a representative to serve on the Sydney WGM Organizing Committee - at request of HL7 Chair. The role of the TSC representative will be to liaison between Sydney planning and TSC concerns around WGM productivity.
      • Helen volunteers. Helen accepted by general consent. Bob will send her the information.
      • Charlie asks if we have one for Boston? So far only have plans to do something for Sydney. Boston as a plenary will have a group working on it already. Something to
    • Open Issues List
    • NIST issues, at TSC Tracker # 1546
      • Lisa Carnahan sent an email to a bunch of people in HL7 on progress on NIST’s work on requirements. Need some coordination and visibility to respond to this important consumer. John notes that will be a primary topic to address with Lisa tomorrow.

Adjourned 11:43 am EDT.

Next Steps

Actions
  • John will forward a copy of the email requesting the ballot. Update: sent to Gregg.
  • John and Charlie Mead will work on a one sheet overview of SAIF vs NIEM, reviewed by ArB with the HL7 position.
  • Lynn will send the updated version link of the SAIF and Sound” to the list.
  • Charlie and John to come up with a recommendation for the TSC to discuss next Monday on prioritizing projector lending at WGM.
  • Lynn will send agenda link on wiki to Helen on HL7 Activities with Other SDOs
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Likely conflict next week with ISO meetings; John will already be in Rio.
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