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===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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Call to order 11:04 AM
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)Jim Case and Rob Hausam from Vocab, Brian Pech observing.
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#Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
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#Approve Minutes of [[2012-11-26 TSC Call Agenda]] Approved 5/0/1 (Ravi abstains)
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====Governance====
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<!--  Governance      -->
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<!--  Discussion  -->
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*Governance Discussion topics:
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**Review [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_Terminology_Authority_-_Policies_and_Procedures HL7 Terminology Authority - Policies and Procedures] from Vocab WG of FTSD, in accord with [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=806 PI# 806], at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2416 TSC Tracker # 2416].
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**:Rob and Jim describe this proposal for the HL7 Terminology Authority (HTA). This is not for structural terminology but determining harmonization of terms versus external SDO code system value set expansions.
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***Jim addresses concerns that it's not intended to change internal processes within HL7 but provide point of contact with external SDOs.
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***Austin asks about the relationship of this group to the TSC - as currently written it will be exclusively Board appointed. TSC might have a role with governance of Work Groups to ensure they use the HTA.
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***HTA members will manage the communication of the requests with other SDOs. Ravi asks about the window of response time between other SDOs to HL7 Harmonization cycles. Jim notes that with request of our own namespace through this Authority, we can assign IDs and send requests to IHTSDO. Terms can remain in our HL7 module ID even if they are not accepted into the namespace. It's not value set creation or management.
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***Woody notes that the HTA is the enabler of the HL7 namespace.
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***Jim asks the TSC for suggestions to define the relationship between the HTA and the TSC. Austin's concern is the interaction of this HTA with the work groups. With Board appointed cochairs the opportunity might be to create a Work Group to add to T3SD. Woody notes that instead of comparison as a WG, could they be regarded as a group liaison of 4 or 5 people - like a Board Appointed Committee. If there comes a time where a group manages the HL7 namespace another should be created such as a Work Group.
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***Discussion ensued. Offline work will continue to develop a statement of the relationship between the HTA and the TSC. ACTION ITEM: Austin will offer suggestions via email. Freida suggests either the Policies/procedures be included in, or pointed from, the GOM.
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**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2344/9825/VersioningandBackwardsCompatibilityinV3.docx Datatypes Task Force recommendation]: review and feedback from Steering Divisions.
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***see [http://hl7tsc.org/wiki/index.php?title=Versioning_and_Backwards_Compatibility_in_V3#Motion_For_Dealing_with_Data_Types_R2b wiki page]
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***Austin sent Email to Mead if ICSR needed to be in the community. Mead is not on the call.
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====Management====
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#Approval items:
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#*Tabled Motion for [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2399/9812/QualityWorkgroupFormationRequestForm_09.27.12-1.doc Work Group Formation Request] from DESD for the ''Clinical Quality Work Group'' at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2395&start=0 TSC Tracker #2395] - see comments at [[DESD_Work_Group_Formation-Clinical_Quality#Comments]]
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#**Austin expects that SD will turn over responsibility for eMeasure and HQMF to this group. Woody notes if it were named Clinical Quality Reporting or Clinical Quality Information it would be less controversial.
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#**Ravi asks about modeling quality work overlap.
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#**Recommend back to proposed WG cochairs to consider name change to reduce potential misinterpretation. Freida moves conditional approval of the WG with either of those two title changes, seconded by Calvin. Unanimously approved.
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#*For e-vote this week:
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2398/9817/HL7CareCoordinationServiceCSSv105_2012PSS.doc Project Scope Statement approval] for ''HL7 Care Coordination Service (CCS)'', at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=924 PI#924] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2398 TSC Tracker #2398], for Patient Care WG of DESD and cosponsored by Clinical Decision Support WG of SSD SD and SOA WG of FTSD
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2420/9924/PCWGCarePlanInitiativePSS.doc Project Scope Statement approval] for ''Care Plan Initiative'', at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=932 PI#932] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2420 TSC Tracker #2420], for Patient Care WG of DESD
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#***PC gave their plan of action for their remaining open items on PBS Metrics. They have publication requests for a number of their outstanding projects and some are in reballot. Is the TSC prepared to let PC move forward with other projects? There are resources actively working on these projects? We should reward these actions. 
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2419/9906/HL7_PubRqst_2012Sep_CDA_ConsentDir_DSTUExtension.docx DSTU publication extension request]  for ''HL7 Implementation Guide for Clinical Document Architecture, Release 2: Consent Directives, Release 1'' at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2419 TSC Tracker #2419] and [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=553 Project Insight # 553] By CBCC of DESD, for 12 months.
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<!--  Management      -->
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<!--  Discussion  -->
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*Management Discussion topics:
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**Formalization of process for requesting publication of errata - from [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2403&start=0 TSC Tracker # 2403] - postpone
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**TSC WGM [[TSC_Minutes_and_Agendas#2013JanWGM_Phoeniz_AZ_-_USA.2C_January_13-18_2013_Pointe_Hilton_at_Squaw_Peak_Resort|Agendas]]
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***Risk Assessment process report in Governance section for formation of governance points and precepts
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***Calvin asks for an update on FHIR and its processes - FGB and FMG reports under Management. Austin notes that the FGB and FMG are trying to coordinate a joint session during the week - Calvin would like to hear how the experiment is working with division of responsibility for a product line. What's working, what isn't, what needs attention and/or support?
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**TSC call schedule in December? Dec 24th cancelled. Austin planning to hold a call on Dec 31st.
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*Reports:
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**FGB/FMG update - Ron not on the call.
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**Activities with Other SDOs meeting report - met twice so far, topic narrowed to "how various SDOs prioritize internal work and work across SDOs". Austin soliciting presenters to represent HL7. Ravi asks if the HTA is an offshoot of the Activities with SDOs. Austin felt that the HTA emerged from the MOU between IHTSDO and HL7. They are related but he cannot assume causality.
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**Delegated [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2418/9905/HL7_Publication_Request_CDAR2_QRDAIII_DSTU_R1_2012NOVdocx.docx publication request] approval authority for ''HL7 Implementation Guide for CDA® Release 2: Quality Reporting Document Architecture - Category III, DSTU Release 1'' (ballot title) at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2418 TSC Tracker #2418] and [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=210 Project Insight # 210] executed, for publication as DSTU for 24 months for Structured Documents WG of SSD SD. This was tied to ONC deadlines for MU Stage 2.
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**TSC Risk Assessment Task Force report - continuing to work on risk assessment based on current sources of governance/risk. Critical risk items will be coming to the TSC for governance points.
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Adjourned 12:00 pm
  
  
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Latest revision as of 18:27, 13 December 2012

TSC Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#
GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206

Date: 2012-12-03
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Austin Kreisler regrets Charlie Mead x Ravi Natarajan regrets Melva Peters
John Quinn regrets Ron Parker x Giorgio Cangioli
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
regrets Ed Tripp x Woody Beeler x Calvin Beebe x Freida Hall
Mead Walker x Tony Julian regrets Pat van Dyke x Patrick Loyd
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote x Rob Hausam (Vocab) x Brian Pech x Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote x Jim Case (Vocab) . obs2 x Don Lloyd
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote . . .

Agenda

Housekeeping

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-11-26 TSC Call Agenda

Governance

Management

  1. Approval items:
  • Management Discussion topics:
    • Formalization of process for requesting publication of errata - from TSC Tracker # 2403
    • TSC WGM Agendas
    • TSC call schedule in December?
  • Reports:
    • FMG update
    • Activities with Other SDOs meeting report
    • Delegated publication request approval authority for HL7 Implementation Guide for CDA® Release 2: Quality Reporting Document Architecture - Category III, DSTU Release 1 (ballot title) at TSC Tracker #2418 and Project Insight # 210 executed, for publication as DSTU for 24 months for Structured Documents WG of SSD SD.
    • TSC Risk Assessment Task Force report


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Call to order 11:04 AM

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)Jim Case and Rob Hausam from Vocab, Brian Pech observing.
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-11-26 TSC Call Agenda Approved 5/0/1 (Ravi abstains)

Governance

  • Governance Discussion topics:
    • Review HL7 Terminology Authority - Policies and Procedures from Vocab WG of FTSD, in accord with PI# 806, at TSC Tracker # 2416.
      Rob and Jim describe this proposal for the HL7 Terminology Authority (HTA). This is not for structural terminology but determining harmonization of terms versus external SDO code system value set expansions.
      • Jim addresses concerns that it's not intended to change internal processes within HL7 but provide point of contact with external SDOs.
      • Austin asks about the relationship of this group to the TSC - as currently written it will be exclusively Board appointed. TSC might have a role with governance of Work Groups to ensure they use the HTA.
      • HTA members will manage the communication of the requests with other SDOs. Ravi asks about the window of response time between other SDOs to HL7 Harmonization cycles. Jim notes that with request of our own namespace through this Authority, we can assign IDs and send requests to IHTSDO. Terms can remain in our HL7 module ID even if they are not accepted into the namespace. It's not value set creation or management.
      • Woody notes that the HTA is the enabler of the HL7 namespace.
      • Jim asks the TSC for suggestions to define the relationship between the HTA and the TSC. Austin's concern is the interaction of this HTA with the work groups. With Board appointed cochairs the opportunity might be to create a Work Group to add to T3SD. Woody notes that instead of comparison as a WG, could they be regarded as a group liaison of 4 or 5 people - like a Board Appointed Committee. If there comes a time where a group manages the HL7 namespace another should be created such as a Work Group.
      • Discussion ensued. Offline work will continue to develop a statement of the relationship between the HTA and the TSC. ACTION ITEM: Austin will offer suggestions via email. Freida suggests either the Policies/procedures be included in, or pointed from, the GOM.
    • Datatypes Task Force recommendation: review and feedback from Steering Divisions.
      • see wiki page
      • Austin sent Email to Mead if ICSR needed to be in the community. Mead is not on the call.

Management

  1. Approval items:
    • Tabled Motion for Work Group Formation Request from DESD for the Clinical Quality Work Group at TSC Tracker #2395 - see comments at DESD_Work_Group_Formation-Clinical_Quality#Comments
      • Austin expects that SD will turn over responsibility for eMeasure and HQMF to this group. Woody notes if it were named Clinical Quality Reporting or Clinical Quality Information it would be less controversial.
      • Ravi asks about modeling quality work overlap.
      • Recommend back to proposed WG cochairs to consider name change to reduce potential misinterpretation. Freida moves conditional approval of the WG with either of those two title changes, seconded by Calvin. Unanimously approved.
    • For e-vote this week:
  • Management Discussion topics:
    • Formalization of process for requesting publication of errata - from TSC Tracker # 2403 - postpone
    • TSC WGM Agendas
      • Risk Assessment process report in Governance section for formation of governance points and precepts
      • Calvin asks for an update on FHIR and its processes - FGB and FMG reports under Management. Austin notes that the FGB and FMG are trying to coordinate a joint session during the week - Calvin would like to hear how the experiment is working with division of responsibility for a product line. What's working, what isn't, what needs attention and/or support?
    • TSC call schedule in December? Dec 24th cancelled. Austin planning to hold a call on Dec 31st.
  • Reports:
    • FGB/FMG update - Ron not on the call.
    • Activities with Other SDOs meeting report - met twice so far, topic narrowed to "how various SDOs prioritize internal work and work across SDOs". Austin soliciting presenters to represent HL7. Ravi asks if the HTA is an offshoot of the Activities with SDOs. Austin felt that the HTA emerged from the MOU between IHTSDO and HL7. They are related but he cannot assume causality.
    • Delegated publication request approval authority for HL7 Implementation Guide for CDA® Release 2: Quality Reporting Document Architecture - Category III, DSTU Release 1 (ballot title) at TSC Tracker #2418 and Project Insight # 210 executed, for publication as DSTU for 24 months for Structured Documents WG of SSD SD. This was tied to ONC deadlines for MU Stage 2.
    • TSC Risk Assessment Task Force report - continuing to work on risk assessment based on current sources of governance/risk. Critical risk items will be coming to the TSC for governance points.

Adjourned 12:00 pm



Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Austin will offer suggestions via email to develop a statement of the relationship between the HTA and the TSC.
  • Recommend back to proposed WG cochairs to consider name change to reduce potential misinterpretation
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items


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