2012-11-26 TSC Call Minutes

TSC Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371# GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206		Date: 2012-11-26 Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler		Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso

Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented				yes
Chair/CTO		ArB		International Affiliate Rep		Ad-Hoc
x	Austin Kreisler	x	Charlie Mead		Ravi Natarajan	x	Melva Peters
	John Quinn	x	Ron Parker	x	Giorgio Cangioli
Domain Experts		Foundation and Technology		Structure and Semantic Design		Technical and Support Services
x	Ed Tripp	x	Woody Beeler	x	Calvin Beebe	x	Freida Hall
regrets	Mead Walker	x	Tony Julian	x	Pat van Dyke	.	Patrick Loyd
ex officio		Invited Guests		Observers		HL7 Staff
.	Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote	x	Jean Duteau, Affiliate Representative-elect	x	Brian Pech	x	Lynn Laakso
.	Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote		Andy Stechishin, co-chair-elect	.	obs2	x	Dave Hamill
.	Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote	.		.	.	.

Agenda

Housekeeping

1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
3. Approve Minutes of 2012-11-19 TSC Call Agenda

Governance

• Governance Discussion topics:
  • Datatypes Task Force recommendation: review and feedback from Steering Divisions.
    • see wiki page
  • Updated proposed changes in wording to the GOM for TSC attendance at WGMs - Austin/Freida
  • Review HL7 Terminology Authority - Policies and Procedures from Vocab WG of FTSD, in accord with PI# 806, at TSC Tracker # 2416.

Management

1. Approval items:
   • Ballot approval list for 2013Jan ballot cycle: last week's approvals are at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2409/9873/2013JanTSCApprovalList_with_recon_notes_upd.doc
     • Postponed from 2012-11-12 call - exceptions of
       • HL7 Version 3 SAIF Conceptual Specification: Laboratory Orders, Release 1 (1st DSTU Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 587; Unique Ballot ID: V3SAIF_LABORD_R1_D1_2013JAN. OO: Note that this name indicates a new general category.
       • HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy CMETs, Release 1 (5th Normative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 249. Unique Ballot ID: V3_RX_CMET_R1_N5_2013JAN. RX: This last balloted in 2011 JAN; due to the long delay, it is suggested that the ballot pool be opened to general enrollment. Also, due to the issues surrounding the balloting of CMETs, I strongly suggest that we postpone any balloting of CMETs until it is clear how we will be handling future releases of CMETs, tracking of reconciliations, etc.
     • continued ballots for Infobutton IG R4 - previously passed ballot; and eMeasure will not be ready
       • Need to review guidance on ability to publish Informative or DSTU after successful ballot and reconciliation, even if the reconciliation identifies substantive change. Substantive change forces reballot at the Normative level.
   • Proposed motions (part II) for withdrawal of standards for ANSI cleanup, at TSC Tracker 2365

• Results of e-vote this week: All were approved 6/0/0 with 3 Steering Divisions, 2 Affiliate Reps, and an ad-hoc (in a pear tree) submitting votes
  • Approve 2013 Project Scope Statement Template at TSC Tracker # 2410
  • DSTU Publication Request of HL7 Version 3 Standard: Order Set Publication, Release 1 for CDS of DESD at Project Insight # 259 and TSC Tracker # 2411
  • Project Approval Request of Evaluate NLM Vocabulary Submission Tool (USCRS) at HL7 for Vocab of FTSD, cosponsored by Electronic Services WG and Tooling WG of T3SD at Project Insight # 945 and TSC Tracker # 2412
  • Project Approval Request of HL7 Vocabulary Maintenance in the IHTSDO Workbench for Vocab of FTSD, cosponsored by Tooling WG of T3SD at Project Insight # 947 and TSC Tracker # 2414
  • Project Approval Request of WGM Room Assignment Project 2013 for ES of T3SD at Project Insight # 944 and TSC Tracker # 2415
• Management Discussion topics:
  • CTO Evaluations due by Friday November 30th - HQ is challenging TSC to have 100% participation
  • Formalization of process for requesting publication of errata - from TSC Tracker # 2403
• Reports:
  • FMG update

Supporting Documents

• See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Call to order 11:03 am

1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) Brian, Dave and Jean observing
2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler; Woody asks about Wrappers R1.1 which passed in FTSD last week. Since it was preapproved by TSC it was not included in the e-vote.
3. Approve Minutes of 2012-11-19 TSC Call Agenda; unanimously approved

Governance

• Governance Discussion topics:
  • Datatypes Task Force recommendation: review and feedback from Steering Divisions.
    • see wiki page
    • What have the Steering Divisions identified for other standards to which this "community" will apply to besides SPL? ICSR was suggested but no evidence presented. Woody suggests Common Product Model (CPM) for those CMETS on which implementations depend such as ICSR will need to be in the fork as well. Need to nail down an answer from Mead on ICSR. Bring back next week and Austin will follow up with Mead.
  • Updated proposed changes in wording to the GOM for TSC attendance at WGMs - Austin/Freida
    • Ed joins
    • Motion: Freida moves and Woody seconds endorsement of the proposal to send to the GOC. Vote: unanimously approved.
  • Review HL7 Terminology Authority - Policies and Procedures from Vocab WG of FTSD, in accord with PI# 806, at TSC Tracker # 2416.
    • FTSD has reviewed and endorsed.
    • Austin will try to get someone from Vocab on the call next week. Please review for next week's discussion. Woody suggests Rob Hausam or Jim Case.

Management

1. Approval items:
   • Ballot approval list for 2013Jan ballot cycle: last week's approvals are at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2409/9873/2013JanTSCApprovalList_with_recon_notes_upd.doc
     • Postponed from 2012-11-12 call - exceptions of
       • HL7 Version 3 SAIF Conceptual Specification: Laboratory Orders, Release 1 (1st DSTU Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 587; Unique Ballot ID: V3SAIF_LABORD_R1_D1_2013JAN. OO: Note that this name indicates a new general category.

         Austin reports interaction with Lorraine and the ArB on this. SAIF should be removed from the name. Lorraine notes that the conceptual specification includes things that are not typically included in DAMs, but Austin feels they are setting the bar on what DAMs should contain in order to be Normative. Charlie notes that the ArB will discuss on the meeting after this week when both Lorraine and Patrick are available. Woody notes the behavioral models included in a conceptual model not included in an information models in a DAM. A DAM as defined by ArB for normative should have both. Does the SAIF definition of DAM include the behavioral components? SAIF doesn't have a DAM defined. SAIF Artifact definition project has not defined behavioral model within DAM. While it's a new general category, Don will be putting it into the V3 Ballot section with DAMs and as a draft standard we can change the name later. TSC will task MnM and ArB to make the distinction in the interim. Motion: Woody moves we drop SAIF, and allow the remaining name to go forward. Ed seconds. Vote: unanimously approved.

       • HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy CMETs, Release 1 (5th Normative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 249. Unique Ballot ID: V3_RX_CMET_R1_N5_2013JAN. RX: This last balloted in 2011 JAN; due to the long delay, it is suggested that the ballot pool be opened to general enrollment. Also, due to the issues surrounding the balloting of CMETs, I strongly suggest that we postpone any balloting of CMETs until it is clear how we will be handling future releases of CMETs, tracking of reconciliations, etc.

         Woody notes he needs to caucus with them whether their CMETs were included in the CMET Release 3. We'll need a list comparison of these CMETs compared to the CMET R3 for the contents of this Normative ballot for notification to ANSI. Motion: Woody moves and Calvin seconds allowing them to proceed to ballot with option to withdraw if the comparison yields an empty set. Vote: unanimously approved.

     • continued ballots for Infobutton IG R4 - previously passed ballot; and eMeasure will not be ready
       • Need to review guidance on ability to publish Informative or DSTU after successful ballot and reconciliation, even if the reconciliation identifies substantive change. Substantive change forces reballot at the Normative level.
       • Austin had extensive email discussions with cochairs of groups proposing reballot after successful ballot. Groups can go straight to publication even with substantive change identified, if the ballot passed, for informative and DSTU. These groups will notify Don if they are withdrawing and go forward to publishing.
       • Ed suggests this guidance be incorporated into the cochairs handbook. Austin also intends to challenge the WGs on future ballot cycles that continue this practice of reballoting after a successful ballot.
   • Proposed motions (part II) for withdrawal of standards for ANSI cleanup, at TSC Tracker 2365

Standard	Responsible WG	Last Balloted	TSC Motion approved
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Laboratory	Orders and Observations	May 2006 at Committee 9	Withdraw
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Personnel Management, Release 1 - Human Resource/Regulation Topic, Release 1	Patient Administration	May 2006 at For comments only	Withdraw
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Personnel Management, Release 2	Patient Administration	May 2006 – For comments only	Withdraw
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Scheduling, Release 2	Patient Administration	Sep 2007 at the membership2 level	Withdraw
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Patient Administration, Release 1	Patient Administration	January 2006 membership level. Expired DSTU since 2007	Withdraw
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Medication, Release 1	Pharmacy	Sept 2006 – Committee 3	Withdraw; WG voted to withdraw 2012-11-12
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Device Order, Release 1	Pharmacy	May 2007 as an informative document	Withdraw; WG voted to withdraw 2012-11-05
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Patient Medication Contraindication Query, Release 1	Pharmacy	May 2007 as an informative document	Withdraw; WG voted to withdraw 2012-11-05
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Device Dispense and Supply Event, Release 1	Pharmacy	May 2007 as an informative document	Withdraw; WG voted to withdraw 2012-11-05
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Generic Patient-Related Pharmacy Query, Release 1	Pharmacy	May 2007 at Committee level	Withdraw; WG voted to withdraw 2012-11-05
HL7 Version 3 Standard: Specification and Use of Reusable Information Constraint Templates, Release 1	Templates	Nov 2007 at DSTU4. Expired DSTU as of Feb 2010	Withdraw

• These are not all normative standards, but ballot projects that appear to have been abandoned. Motion: Woody moves and Pat seconds approval of the proposed motions. Vote: unanimously approved.
• Results of e-vote this week: All were approved 6/0/0 with 3 Steering Divisions, 2 Affiliate Reps, and an ad-hoc (in a pear tree) submitting votes
  • Approve 2013 Project Scope Statement Template at TSC Tracker # 2410
  • DSTU Publication Request of HL7 Version 3 Standard: Order Set Publication, Release 1 for CDS of DESD at Project Insight # 259 and TSC Tracker # 2411
  • Project Approval Request of Evaluate NLM Vocabulary Submission Tool (USCRS) at HL7 for Vocab of FTSD, cosponsored by Electronic Services WG and Tooling WG of T3SD at Project Insight # 945 and TSC Tracker # 2412
  • Project Approval Request of HL7 Vocabulary Maintenance in the IHTSDO Workbench for Vocab of FTSD, cosponsored by Tooling WG of T3SD at Project Insight # 947 and TSC Tracker # 2414
  • Project Approval Request of WGM Room Assignment Project 2013 for ES of T3SD at Project Insight # 944 and TSC Tracker # 2415
• Management Discussion topics:
  • CTO Evaluations due by Friday November 30th - HQ is challenging TSC to have 100% participation
  • Formalization of process for requesting publication of errata - from TSC Tracker # 2403 - Austin has not had an opportunity for work with John on that.
• Reports:
  • FMG update
    • Austin noted that he berated the FHIR group for not completing reconciliation in time.

Adjourned at 11:45 AM EST, please take the extra time to fill out the CTO evaluation.

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) Austin will try to get someone from Vocab on the call next week to discuss the Terminology Authority Austin will follow up with Mead on whether ICSR is included in the community of interest regarding use of R2B for next week's call. Woody will list comparison of these Pharmacy CMETs compared to the CMET R3 for the contents of this Normative ballot for notification to ANSI by Friday MnM (SAIF artifact definition project) and ArB will make the distinction of DAM or Conceptual Specification in two weeks. Advice for Groups to go straight to publication even with substantive change identified if the ballot passed, for informative and DSTU, to be incorporated into the cochairs handbook

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