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Call to order at 11:05 AM EST
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) Jean, Diego, Melva and Ken join the call.
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#Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
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#Approve Minutes of [[2012-02-20 TSC Call Agenda]] - Freida abstains, with Patrick's assent for T3SD, unanimously approved
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#Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=494 action items] –
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#*Tooling EHR Profile designer as a SAIF Architecture project - SAIF AP determined they are interested in the output but not in coordinating the project.
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#*'''Tabled Motion:''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2183/9092/EDUC_PSS_-_Certification_Program_EnhancementFinal_SD.doc project scope statement] for ''HL7 Certification Enhancement'' for Education WG of T3SD, at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=865 Project Insight # 865], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2183&start=0 TSC Tracker # 2183]. Melva describes their interest in exploring other types of competencies for certification. Diego adds the affiliates have needs to offer some additional meaning to their certification. Calvin reiterates questions from last week's discussion, in the project's targeted outcomes in its relation to the existing certification.  Project needs to assess the needs for this type of certification in the marketplace, notes Patrick. The deliverables listed are categories of skills their definition and assessment adds Melva. Calvin asks about educational materials that would need to be developed, Melva notes that the definition of chores and certification program management on project objectives would have to cover that, but the timelines do also seem aggressive. Calvin's concern is that the development and launch are occurring simultaneously and it would be helpful to deliver first what is identified as needed and then subsequently develop materials and then launch it. Learning by doing and demonstration of ability to do something rather than answering a quiz is not part of this project notes Diego. It is more a policy view of Education to try to integrate a practical element into the education programs. Ravi asks if the term enhancement means the current education will be changed; the enhancement is a deliverable notes Melva. Ravi asks what is the cost aspect? Melva notes that budget implications would have to be reviewed as they go through.
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#*'''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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#*'''Motion: ''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2187/9111/MnM-CorePrinciplesR2-ProjectScopeStatement.doc project scope statement] for MnM of FTSD: ''Ballot Release 2 of "Core principles of V3 Models" - a limited scope update'' at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=864 Project Insight # 864], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2187 TSC Tracker # 2187]. Woody describes the project.
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#*'''Vote: ''' Unanimously approved.
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#*'''Motion: ''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2192/9112/HL7PSS_CG_CDAIG_GenTest.doc project scope statement] for CG of DESD: ''Extending the project "CDA Implementation Guide for Genetic Testing Reports"'' at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=460 Project Insight # 460], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2192 TSC Tracker # 2192]. Austin notes that while it is noted as a revision to the former project scope, we cannot tell what the revisions are. Ed is not on the call. It's not indicated what the changes are and they have balloted for comment repeatedly after their DSTU ballot in September 2010. There is concern that the repeated ballot for comment does not show progress. We need some representation to discuss these questions. '''Motion tabled'''.
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#*Request for guidance on “EHR-S Function and Information Model, Release 2.1” intending to ballot under [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=688 Project Insight ID# 688]. This would be a revision of the “EHR-S Functional Model, Release 2” [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=1806&start=0 TSC Tracker # 1806].  Background at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2194 TSC Tracker # 2194]. EHR-S FM R1.1 is out for recirculation ballot still. ISO has finished their ballot of the incremental changes and we still must resolve a remaining negative. Don spoke with the cochairs, that EHR-S FM R2 with addition of information models and so consider this an incremental release to EHR S FM R2. R2 is expected to go to joint ballot this spring and not including the informational model piece in conjunction with the ISO ballot material. Pat reports Steve is not planning to ballot the 2.1 in advance of 2.0. R1.1 should be done with recirculation ballot in a week and a half, and then anticipate a publication request. We could then have a ballot of R2 this cycle - there is a tabled motion before the TSC to approve 2.0 as the Steering Division had already approved it contingent on R1.1 completing normative ballot reconciliation.
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#**'''Motion: '''Woody moves and Pat seconds the approval of project 551 for EHR-S FM R2.0. Pat notes that it is going to full JIC participation except for GS1 and not just ISO. Pat will update the scope statement to reflect the additional participation.
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#**'''Vote: ''' unanimously approved. Assuming the recirculation ballot is successful, we anticipate a request to publish R1.1 and R2 can go out this cycle.
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#*Harmonization Work Group Health Metric
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#**From MnM/Vocabulary WG in San Antonio: Workgroup health should only be based on committee harmonization representation if they would have "standing" as defined in the harmonization rules. See Austin's analysis email.
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#**Woody and MnM's concern is to bring in folks that are unfamiliar with the harmonization process that would unnecessarily complicate a difficult procedure to conduct harmonization over teleconference.  He notes there are perhaps 28 Work Groups that may participate routinely. Discussion ensued over implementation of the practice to support this WGH metric and the Strategic Initiative for modeling consistency. Jean adds for example that SOA's V3 project is not developing a new spec but only using existing specs. EHR as another example produces these profiles but not models. Austin asks what other WGH metric should be devised for those WGs not involved with Harmonization to support Strategic Initiatives, e.g. cross-artifact consistency. Woody notes that Harmonization has boiled down to a half-dozen deeply involved individuals and that may not be adequate representation.
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#*[[Strategic Initiatives TSC Dashboard]] - review postponed to next week
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#Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
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#*Lynn reports that the next Activities with other SDOs meeting will be in March and a Doodle poll for scheduling will be sent out; TSC members are encouraged to participate.
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#*Announcement of Normative publication request for ''HL7 Version 3 Standard: Data Types - Abstract Specification, Release 2'' balloted at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=455 Project Insight ID# 455] still has four negatives outstanding that are expected to be withdrawn so that publication can move forward.
  
 
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Adjourned 12:00 PM EST
'''''Please don't forget to hang up from the conference call '' (VOIP users)'''
 
 
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2192/9112/HL7PSS_CG_CDAIG_GenTest.doc project scope statement] for CG of DESD: ''Extending the project "CDA Implementation Guide for Genetic Testing Reports"'' at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=460 Project Insight # 460], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2192 TSC Tracker # 2192].
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Latest revision as of 20:01, 5 March 2012

TSC Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#
GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206

Date: 2012-02-27
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Austin Kreisler . Charlie Mead x Ravi Natarajan . Helen Stevens
regrets John Quinn x Ron Parker . open
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
. Ed Tripp x Woody Beeler x Calvin Beebe x Freida Hall
regrets Mead Walker x Tony Julian x Pat van Dyke x Patrick Loyd
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Don Mon (HL7 Board Chair) voting x Diego Kaminker, Education co-chair x Jean Duteau, observer x Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (HL7 Vice Chair) vote x Ken McCaslin, SI Dashboard Proj Fac . . x Don Lloyd
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote x Melva Peters, Education co-chair . . .

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-02-20 TSC Call Agenda
  4. Review action items
    • Tooling EHR Profile designer as a SAIF Architecture project - SAIF AP determined they are interested in the output but not in coordinating the project.
  5. Approval items:
  6. Discussion topics:
    • Request for guidance on “EHR-S Function and Information Model, Release 2.1” intending to ballot under Project Insight ID# 688. This would be a revision of the “EHR-S Functional Model, Release 2” TSC Tracker # 1806. Background at TSC Tracker # 2194
    • Harmonization Work Group Health Metric
      • From MnM/Vocabulary WG in San Antonio: Workgroup health should only be based on committee harmonization representation if they would have "standing" as defined in the harmonization rules. See Austin's analysis email.
    • Strategic Initiatives TSC Dashboard - review the draft metrics and determine exactly how we count them
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
    • Announcement of Normative publication request for HL7 Version 3 Standard: Data Types - Abstract Specification, Release 2 balloted at Project Insight ID# 455
  8. Open Issues List


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Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Call to order at 11:05 AM EST

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) Jean, Diego, Melva and Ken join the call.
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-02-20 TSC Call Agenda - Freida abstains, with Patrick's assent for T3SD, unanimously approved
  4. Review action items
    • Tooling EHR Profile designer as a SAIF Architecture project - SAIF AP determined they are interested in the output but not in coordinating the project.
  5. Approval items:
    • Tabled Motion: Approve project scope statement for HL7 Certification Enhancement for Education WG of T3SD, at Project Insight # 865, TSC Tracker # 2183. Melva describes their interest in exploring other types of competencies for certification. Diego adds the affiliates have needs to offer some additional meaning to their certification. Calvin reiterates questions from last week's discussion, in the project's targeted outcomes in its relation to the existing certification. Project needs to assess the needs for this type of certification in the marketplace, notes Patrick. The deliverables listed are categories of skills their definition and assessment adds Melva. Calvin asks about educational materials that would need to be developed, Melva notes that the definition of chores and certification program management on project objectives would have to cover that, but the timelines do also seem aggressive. Calvin's concern is that the development and launch are occurring simultaneously and it would be helpful to deliver first what is identified as needed and then subsequently develop materials and then launch it. Learning by doing and demonstration of ability to do something rather than answering a quiz is not part of this project notes Diego. It is more a policy view of Education to try to integrate a practical element into the education programs. Ravi asks if the term enhancement means the current education will be changed; the enhancement is a deliverable notes Melva. Ravi asks what is the cost aspect? Melva notes that budget implications would have to be reviewed as they go through.
    • Vote: unanimously approved.
    • Motion: Approve project scope statement for MnM of FTSD: Ballot Release 2 of "Core principles of V3 Models" - a limited scope update at Project Insight # 864, TSC Tracker # 2187. Woody describes the project.
    • Vote: Unanimously approved.
    • Motion: Approve project scope statement for CG of DESD: Extending the project "CDA Implementation Guide for Genetic Testing Reports" at Project Insight # 460, TSC Tracker # 2192. Austin notes that while it is noted as a revision to the former project scope, we cannot tell what the revisions are. Ed is not on the call. It's not indicated what the changes are and they have balloted for comment repeatedly after their DSTU ballot in September 2010. There is concern that the repeated ballot for comment does not show progress. We need some representation to discuss these questions. Motion tabled.
  6. Discussion topics:
    • Request for guidance on “EHR-S Function and Information Model, Release 2.1” intending to ballot under Project Insight ID# 688. This would be a revision of the “EHR-S Functional Model, Release 2” TSC Tracker # 1806. Background at TSC Tracker # 2194. EHR-S FM R1.1 is out for recirculation ballot still. ISO has finished their ballot of the incremental changes and we still must resolve a remaining negative. Don spoke with the cochairs, that EHR-S FM R2 with addition of information models and so consider this an incremental release to EHR S FM R2. R2 is expected to go to joint ballot this spring and not including the informational model piece in conjunction with the ISO ballot material. Pat reports Steve is not planning to ballot the 2.1 in advance of 2.0. R1.1 should be done with recirculation ballot in a week and a half, and then anticipate a publication request. We could then have a ballot of R2 this cycle - there is a tabled motion before the TSC to approve 2.0 as the Steering Division had already approved it contingent on R1.1 completing normative ballot reconciliation.
      • Motion: Woody moves and Pat seconds the approval of project 551 for EHR-S FM R2.0. Pat notes that it is going to full JIC participation except for GS1 and not just ISO. Pat will update the scope statement to reflect the additional participation.
      • Vote: unanimously approved. Assuming the recirculation ballot is successful, we anticipate a request to publish R1.1 and R2 can go out this cycle.
    • Harmonization Work Group Health Metric
      • From MnM/Vocabulary WG in San Antonio: Workgroup health should only be based on committee harmonization representation if they would have "standing" as defined in the harmonization rules. See Austin's analysis email.
      • Woody and MnM's concern is to bring in folks that are unfamiliar with the harmonization process that would unnecessarily complicate a difficult procedure to conduct harmonization over teleconference. He notes there are perhaps 28 Work Groups that may participate routinely. Discussion ensued over implementation of the practice to support this WGH metric and the Strategic Initiative for modeling consistency. Jean adds for example that SOA's V3 project is not developing a new spec but only using existing specs. EHR as another example produces these profiles but not models. Austin asks what other WGH metric should be devised for those WGs not involved with Harmonization to support Strategic Initiatives, e.g. cross-artifact consistency. Woody notes that Harmonization has boiled down to a half-dozen deeply involved individuals and that may not be adequate representation.
    • Strategic Initiatives TSC Dashboard - review postponed to next week
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
    • Lynn reports that the next Activities with other SDOs meeting will be in March and a Doodle poll for scheduling will be sent out; TSC members are encouraged to participate.
    • Announcement of Normative publication request for HL7 Version 3 Standard: Data Types - Abstract Specification, Release 2 balloted at Project Insight ID# 455 still has four negatives outstanding that are expected to be withdrawn so that publication can move forward.

Adjourned 12:00 PM EST

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