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==TSC Risk Assessment Committee (TRAC) Agenda/Minutes ==
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===Meeting Info/Attendees===
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'''Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#'''<br/> GoToMeeting ID: [https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889380173 889-380-173]
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'''Location: ''' Phone: +1 770-657-9270, Participant Code: 985371, <br/>https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/177894709
 
| colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 2014-12-17'''<br/> '''Time: 2PM'''
 
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| colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
 
| colspan="1" align="left"|Mary Kay/ Austin
 
| colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
 
| colspan="1" align="left"| Anne
 
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| width="0%" colspan="2" align="right"|'''Facilitator''': Pat Van Dyke
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| || Calvin Beebe
 
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| || Woody Beeler
 
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| ||Lorraine Constable
 
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| ||Bo Dagnall
 
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| || Jean Duteau,
 
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| || Rick Haddorff
 
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| || Tony Julian
 
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| || Paul Knapp
 
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| || Austin Kreisler,
 
 
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| || Lynn Laakso
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|x||Pat Van Dyke||Regrets||Rick Haddorff|| ||Freida Hall
 
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| || Brian Pech
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|x||Austin Kreisler || || Ken McCaslin||x|| Melva Peters
 
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| || John Quinn
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| ||John Quinn || ||John Roberts|| ||  
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| || John Roberts
 
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| || Andy Stechishin
 
  
 
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===Agenda===
 
===Agenda===
Agenda review
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*Agenda review and approval - Pat Van Dyke
*Notes of [[20141210_PLA_call]] review
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*Review minutes of [[2014-12-10 TRAC]]  
*notional division of products into product families and lines, to provide examples for peer review.
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*Action Items:
**Level of granularity
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**Continue work on document
**Identify which pieces are orphaned, and the political elements to be surfaced.
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**Fix Pat's editing permissions
**Positioning cross-product family artifacts (standards naming)
 
*BAM-lite feedback and review
 
**Governance on V2.x (v2.9 substantive changes)
 
**develop form to request establishing a Product Family
 
  
 
===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===
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'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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* Call started at 10:03
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*Reviewed recent activity
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*Pat asks if anyone has heard any concerns about WG 3-year plans. Austin replies that the benefit of 3 year planning may not be seen. FHIR, for instance, has changed things so much that the original 3 year plans can't be followed. WGs are losing control of what should be their material by the threat of work being done for them if they can't complete it on the FHIR timeline. Pat asks if Argonaut is outside forces coming in to do the work, and if so will they adhere to the standards? Melva/Austin reply that it is unknown at this point.  Should we add to risk spreadsheet? Or is it covered by another item in our spreadsheet? Looks like a combo of 244, 250, 251, 253, and 254. Argonaut is a way for FHIR to mitigate a number of these risks. The risk is they'll do it without coordinating through the WGs. They don't seem to be throwing the resources at the WGs. How do we get around this and avoid the issues? Since it's WG projects doing the resource work for the May ballot, Argonaut resources need to work through the WGs. Has to be completely transparent. What questions need to move forward to TSC, FGB, and FMG? Should we meet with TSC before January 5 regarding these concerns? TSC leadership should open a channel to find out intent and provide guidance. Pat will outreach to Ken with these concerns on behalf of TRAC regarding loss of WG control and oversight - hope to meet on the subject in the next week. If we wait until the WG meeting the process will be too far along to provide input. 
  
 
Adjourned  
 
Adjourned  
  
===Meeting Outcomes===
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===Next Steps===
 
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*Pat will outreach to Ken with these concerns on behalf of TRAC regarding loss of WG control and oversight
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Latest revision as of 14:51, 14 January 2015


TSC Risk Assessment Committee (TRAC) Agenda/Minutes

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Meeting Info/Attendees

TRAC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#
GoToMeeting ID: 889-380-173

Date: Wednesday, 2014-12-17
Time: 10:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Pat Van Dyke Note taker(s): Anne
Quorum n/a
Chair/CTO Members Members
x Pat Van Dyke Regrets Rick Haddorff Freida Hall
x Austin Kreisler Ken McCaslin x Melva Peters
John Quinn John Roberts

Agenda

  • Agenda review and approval - Pat Van Dyke
  • Review minutes of 2014-12-10 TRAC
  • Action Items:
    • Continue work on document
    • Fix Pat's editing permissions

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  • Call started at 10:03
  • Reviewed recent activity
  • Pat asks if anyone has heard any concerns about WG 3-year plans. Austin replies that the benefit of 3 year planning may not be seen. FHIR, for instance, has changed things so much that the original 3 year plans can't be followed. WGs are losing control of what should be their material by the threat of work being done for them if they can't complete it on the FHIR timeline. Pat asks if Argonaut is outside forces coming in to do the work, and if so will they adhere to the standards? Melva/Austin reply that it is unknown at this point. Should we add to risk spreadsheet? Or is it covered by another item in our spreadsheet? Looks like a combo of 244, 250, 251, 253, and 254. Argonaut is a way for FHIR to mitigate a number of these risks. The risk is they'll do it without coordinating through the WGs. They don't seem to be throwing the resources at the WGs. How do we get around this and avoid the issues? Since it's WG projects doing the resource work for the May ballot, Argonaut resources need to work through the WGs. Has to be completely transparent. What questions need to move forward to TSC, FGB, and FMG? Should we meet with TSC before January 5 regarding these concerns? TSC leadership should open a channel to find out intent and provide guidance. Pat will outreach to Ken with these concerns on behalf of TRAC regarding loss of WG control and oversight - hope to meet on the subject in the next week. If we wait until the WG meeting the process will be too far along to provide input.

Adjourned


Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Pat will outreach to Ken with these concerns on behalf of TRAC regarding loss of WG control and oversight
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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