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HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

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Date: 2011-11-07
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern STANDARD
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso


Attendee Name Affiliation
Calvin Beebe HL7 SSD SD Co-Chair
x Woody Beeler HL7 FTSD Co-Chair
Bob Dolin HL7 Board Chair
x Freida Hall invited guest, HL7 T3SD SD Co-Chair-elect
x Tony Julian HL7 FTSD Co-Chair
x Austin Kreisler HL7 TSC Chair, DESD Co-Chair
x Lynn Laakso HL7 staff support
Patrick Loyd HL7 T3SD Co-Chair
Ken McCaslin HL7 T3SD Co-Chair
Charlie Mead HL7 ArB Chair
x Ravi Natarajan HL7 Affiliate Representative
Ron Parker HL7 ArB Alternate
x John Quinn HL7 CTO
x Ed Tripp HL7 DESD Co-Chair
x Pat Van Dyke HL7 SSD SD Co-Chair
Mead Walker invited guest, HL7 DESD SD Co-Chair-elect


Quorum Requirements (Chair +5 with 2 SD Reps) Met: yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2011-10-31 TSC Call Agenda
  4. Review action items –
    • (postponed from last meeting) Ken will report back on Karen’s opinion on the ONC S&I LRI downgrade.
    • Reminder - for next week - Review Strategic Dashboard criteria metrics for:
      1. Tracker #2060 Ken : Industry responsiveness and easier implementation
      2. Tracker #2059 Austin : Requirements traceability and cross-artifact consistency
      3. Tracker #2058 Woody : Product Quality
      4. Tracker #2057 Patrick : WGM Effectiveness
  5. Approval items:
  6. Discussion topics:
    • Modeling vs. terminology (continued)
    • TSC review of Jan 2012 Ballot Anomalies
      • 3RD+ BALLOT CYCLE
        • HL7 Implementation Guide for CDA® Release 2: Genetic Testing Reports, Release 1 (4th Comment Only Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 460
        • HL7 Version 3 Standard: Identification of Medicinal Products – Creation and Maintenance Messages, Release 1 (3rd DSTU Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 501
        • HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Medication Knowledge-Base Query, Release 1 (7th Normative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 189
      • PENDING PROJECT APPROVAL
        • TSC - XML Encoding Rules for Version 2 Messages, Release 2 (1st Normative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 825
        • SD & TSC - HL7 Version 2 Implementation Guide: Clinical Genomics; fully LOINC-Qualified Cytogenetic Model, Release 1 - US Realm (1st Informative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 663
        • TSC - HL7 Templates Registry Business Process Requirements Analysis, Release 1Comment Only Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 829
    • Process for Work Groups changing steering divisions
    • Reminder: TSC members, Please participate in the CTO evaluation!!
    • Reminder: Product review feedback accepted until November 15th.
    • Reminder: Feedback on TSC_Guidance_on_Ballot_Levels accepted until November 30th
  7. Open Issues List


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Despite lack of quorum, meeting convened at 11:06 AM.

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) no visitors identified
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler – discussion items brought to top of agenda; remainder of items will go to electronic vote
  3. Review action items – Reminders
    • (postponed from last meeting) Ken will report back on Karen’s opinion on the ONC S&I LRI downgrade. Ken is not available
    • Reminder - for next week - Review Strategic Dashboard criteria metrics for:
      1. Tracker #2060 Ken : Industry responsiveness and easier implementation
      2. Tracker #2059 Austin : Requirements traceability and cross-artifact consistency
      3. Tracker #2058 Woody : Product Quality
      4. Tracker #2057 Patrick : WGM Effectiveness
  4. Discussion topics:
    • Modeling vs. terminology (continued) – move this forward as an MnM Hot Topic, ask MnM to report after WGM
  5. Pat joins the call; quorum is achieved
  6. Approve Minutes of 2011-10-31 TSC Call Agenda unanimously approved
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  8. Approval items:
    • Motion: Approve DSTU Publication Request for Security WG of FTSD: V3 Security DAM, R1 (Composite Security and Privacy Domain Analysis Model aka Security Domain Analysis Model) at TSC Tracker # 2104, Project Insight # 529
      • note: balloted 2010May, prior to TSC advice that DAMs should be Informative
      • Austin notes that he’s comfortable with them moving forward with this as DSTU for now, and when the DSTU expires and they go normative they would have to demonstrate how a DAM can offer the conformance criteria to be normative, or to ballot/publish as informative.
      • Ballot levels in the project information on PI Searchable database indicate both DSTU ballot 2010Jan and Informative ballot approval for the project. Ask them to come back to discuss this next week.
      • Woody evaluating archival information on the Security DAM for DSTU vs. Informative; this project was initially controversial and Woody’s hesitant to poke that hornets’ nest. Woody moves we approve the DSTU publication with the understanding that at its expiration it will have to demonstrate normative criteria or revert to informative. March 30, 2010 email archive issue between Woody and Lynn to review. Motion to table per Pat. Second by Woody. Motion to table unanimously approved. Woody also has an email from Don Lloyd to John Quinn April 2nd 2010 based on OACIS balloting something similar.
    • Motion: Approve Informative Document Publication Request for SDWG of SSD SD: HL7 Implementation Guidance for Unique Object Identifiers (OIDs), Release 1 at Project Insight # 328, TSC Tracker # 2026
      • This was balloted a couple years ago and SDWG finally got through reconciliation.
      • Vote: Passed 4/0/1 Pat abstains
    • Motion: Approve Project Scope Statement for Emergency Care of DESD, Data Elements for Emergency Department Systems (DEEDS) update and revision at Project Insight # 820 and TSC Tracker # 2106
      • Ed describes the project. This is only for comment-only ballot. Austin notes they would need a new project scope to take it beyond a ballot for comment.
      • Vote: unanimously approved
    • Motion: Approve Project Scope Statement for Templates WG of FTSD, cosponsored by Tooling WG of T3SD and Structured Documents WG of SSD SD, HL7 Templates Registry Business Process Requirements Analysis, at Project Insight # 829 and TSC Tracker # 2107
      • Vote: unanimously approved
    • Motion: Approve Project Scope Statement for ITS WG, cosponsored by CGIT WG of FTSD, HL7 v2 XML Encoding Rules, Release 2 at Project Insight # 825 and TSC Tracker # 2108
      • Vote: Woody moves to approve with technical edit to change the project intent check box from supplement to revise current standard. Second by Pat/Ravi. Unanimously approved.
    • Motion: Approve *in-committee* Project Scope Statement for TSC cosponsors suggested are ArB and MnM, Risk Assessment and Governance for SAIF Architecture Program at Project Insight # 828 and TSC Tracker # 2109
      • Austin describes the project as the pilot of the SAIF governance section and what ought to be in it.
      • Vote: Woody moves and Pat seconds approval of the project in-committee. Unanimously approved.
  9. Pat has to drop off;
  10. Discussion topics:
    • TSC review of Jan 2012 Ballot Anomalies
      • 3RD+ BALLOT CYCLE
        • HL7 Implementation Guide for CDA® Release 2: Genetic Testing Reports, Release 1 (4th Comment Only Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 460
          comment-only is not a concern
        • HL7 Version 3 Standard: Identification of Medicinal Products – Creation and Maintenance Messages, Release 1 (3rd DSTU Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 501
          DSTU still pending
        • HL7 Version 3 Standard: Pharmacy; Medication Knowledge-Base Query, Release 1 (7th Normative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 189
          Woody notes that they changed scope on their core principles after 5th round and declared remaining negatives out of scope and targeted for a future release. They need to change something. Austin asks if Project Services or Publishing review the content to determine why they can’t get it passed? Woody says need to go back to the sponsor and find out what the issue is. He notes Hugh Glover and some others are trying to clean up the morass that is currently Pharmacy/Medication. They have reduced their balloting of 6 topics to 2. They are trying to solve their problems and we should cut them a little slack. Woody offers to raise the question next week at Harmonization and get a report back.
      • PENDING PROJECT APPROVAL
        • TSC - XML Encoding Rules for Version 2 Messages, Release 2 (1st Normative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 825
        • SD & TSC - HL7 Version 2 Implementation Guide: Clinical Genomics; fully LOINC-Qualified Cytogenetic Model, Release 1 - US Realm (1st Informative Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 663
        • TSC - HL7 Templates Registry Business Process Requirements Analysis, Release 1 Comment Only Ballot) – Project Insight ID: 829
    • Process for Work Groups changing steering divisions
    • Reminder: TSC members, Please participate in the CTO evaluation!!
    • Reminder: Product review feedback accepted until November 15th.
    • Reminder: Feedback on TSC_Guidance_on_Ballot_Levels accepted until November 30th

Adjourned 11:58 AM ET

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Woody offers to raise the question on the 7th round of normative pharmacy balloting next week at Harmonization and get a report back.
  • March 30, 2010 email archive issue between Woody and Lynn to review for Security DAM DSTU.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Ken will report back on Karen’s opinion on the ONC S&I LRI downgrade.
  • Reminder - for next week - Review Strategic Dashboard criteria metrics for:
  • Tracker #2060 Ken : Industry responsiveness and easier implementation
  • Tracker #2059 Austin : Requirements traceability and cross-artifact consistency
  • Tracker #2058 Woody : Product Quality
  • Tracker #2057 Patrick : WGM Effectiveness

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