2014-05-05 DESD WGM Agenda

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Roll call

  • Introductions of members
HL7 DESD Agenda


Date: 2014-05-05
Time: 7:00-8:30 pm EDT
Facilitator John Roberts Note taker(s) Melva Peters
Attendee Name Affiliation
Yes John David Nolen Anatomic Pathology
X Victor Brodsky Anatomic Pathology
Yes John Walsh Anesthesia
Yes Martin Hurrell Anesthesia
X Jim McKinley Attachments
Yes Durwin Day Attachments
Yes Craig Gabron Attachments
Yes Edward Helton BRIDG
X Mary Ann Slack BRIDG
X Gaye Dolin Child Health
Yes Michael Padula Child Health
Yes Feliciano Yu Child Health
X Amnon Shabo Clinical Genomics
Yes Mollie Ullman-Cullere Clinical Genomics
X Yan Heras Clinical Genomics
X Gil Alterovitz Clinical Genomics
X Mitra Rocca Clinical Interoperability Council
Yes Dianne Reeves Clinical Interoperability Council
X Edward Hammond Clinical Interoperability Council
Yes Anita Walden Clinical Interoperability Council
X Walter Suarez Clinical Quality Information
Yes Floyd Eisenberg Clinical Quality Information
X Crystal Kallem Clinical Quality Information
Yes Chris Millet Clinical Quality Information
Yes Patty Craig Clinical Quality Information
X Richard Thoreson Community Based Collaborative Care
Yes Suzanne Gonzales-Webb Community Based Collaborative Care
X Max Walker Community Based Collaborative Care
Yes Melva Peters Domain Expert Steering Division
Yes John Roberts Domain Expert Steering Division
X Peter Park Emergency Care
Yes James McClay Emergency Care
X Sandra Marr Emergency Care
Yes Laura Heermann Langford Emergency Care
Yes John Rhoads Health Care Devices
X John Garguilo Health Care Devices
Yes Todd Cooper Health Care Devices
Yes Stephen Chu Patient Care
Yes Elaine Ayres Patient Care
X Russell Leftwich Patient Care
Yes Michael Tan Patient Care
Yes Laura Heermann Langford Patient Care
X Jean Duteau Patient Care
Yes Jay Lyle Patient Care
X Hugh Glover Pharmacy
X Scott Robertson Pharmacy
Yes John Hatem Pharmacy
Yes Melva Peters Pharmacy
Yes Joginder Madra Public Health Emergency Response (PHER)
Yes John Roberts Public Health Emergency Response (PHER)
Yes Rob Savage Public Health Emergency Response (PHER)
Yes Ken Pool Public Health Emergency Response (PHER)
Yes Edward Helton Regulated Clinical Research Information Management (RCRIM)
X Donald Jaccard Regulated Clinical Research Information Management (RCRIM)
Yes John Kiser Regulated Clinical Research Information Management (RCRIM)

Review Agenda

Approval of Minutes from San Antonio

San Antonio DESD WGM Minutes - DRAFT

  • moved by James McClay (Emergency Care) and seconded by that Laura Heermann Langford (Patient Care) the minutes be approved as documented - 15/0/0 - CARRIED


Co-Chair Elections May 2014 - PLEASE VOTE

  • Thank you to all co-chairs that have stood
Steering Division Work Group Co-Chairs up for Election
Domain Experts Clinical Genomics Amnon Shabo
Domain Experts Clinical Quality Information Floyd Eisenberg
Domain Experts Clinical Quality Information Walter Suarez
Domain Experts Community Based Collaborative Care Richard Thoreson
Domain Experts Health Care Devices John Rhoads
Domain Experts Patient Care Stephen Chu

Co-Chair Elections September 2014

  • Reminder to submit nominations and statement when requested by HQ
Steering Division Work Group Co-Chairs up for Election
Domain Experts Anatomic Pathology John David Nolen
Domain Experts Attachments Jim McKinley
Domain Experts Community Based Collaborative Care Jonathan Coleman (INTERIM)
Domain Experts Clinical Interoperability Council Mitra Rocca
Domain Experts Emergency Care Peter Park
Domain Experts Health Care Devices John Garguilo, Allen Hobbs
Domain Experts Public Health and Emergency Response Joginder Madra, John Roberts

Project Scope Statement Submision Deadline

  • The HL7 Project Management Office (PMO) and the Publishing Work Group want to advise you of an important deadline on Sunday, May 18th.
  • Project Scope Statement for new standards document projects
    • The Word template for new projects is available here: PSS Template.
    • Additional instructions are included in the package.
    • WGs intending to submit new project scopes for the upcoming September 2014 ballot cycle need to submit their scopes before this date.
    • As always, WGs will need to monitor the progress of their scope statements to ensure that they obtain Steering Divisions and TSC approval before the ballot opening date of August 8th.
    • You can review all the publishing calendars here: Publishing Calendars
  • Work Groups are reminded that DESD has a 3 week cycle for electronic votes so all PSS are needed as soon as possible to meet the May 18th deadline
  • It was moved by Durwin Day (Attachments) and seconded by Floyd Eisenberg (CQI) to require that WGs submit all PSS for projects that will be balloted in the September cycle by May 14th to the DESD co-chairs and to the PMO in order to ensure that they are moved through the e-vote process. (15/0/1 abstain) Carried

Updates from the TSC

  • No further updates to what was presented at the Co-Chair dinner

Work Group Health Review


  • Congratulations to CQI, Emergency Care, Pharmacy, RCRIM
  • Discussion of Harmonization Participation
    • What is the weighting of this?
      • The only way for a WG to be automatically "not healthy" is to not submit minutes
      • Healthiest is determined by the lowest count of all measures. It is possible that there will be no WG that has met all measures and therefore "healthy" for this cycle will be WGs with a value of 1 (or more).
    • 2 ways to meet this - either participate in the meeting or review the proposals in WG and take a vote to not participate and forward to Lynn L at HQ and to Harmonization List Serve prior to the Harmonization date.

PBS Metric Review

File:PBS Metrics 20140425 2014MayWGM.xls

Projects Older than 5 years

File:5yrProjectReport 20140504DESD.xls

  • WGs must review and take action on the listed projects. If you are unsure how to manage, please contact Lynn at HQ
Action:  Melva to forward the list to the DESD list serve

New Business

  • Information Item - FHIR ONC project - Structured Data Capture (Patient Care)
    • it was thought that this project would come through Patient Care, but is not planned to be a Structured Documents project
  • How to Manage joint WG and FHIR projects (Patient Care)
    • Concerns were raised about the amount of time and convoluted process of approvals for FHIR projects
    • it was suggested that WGs contact their FHIR Liaison to get assistance
Action:  Melva to determine what the process for approval is and forward to the DESD list serve
  • Potential Impacts of the Complete Document Template Ballot (Attachments)
    • If this is published, it may be presented for adoption in Meaningful Use 3 Regulation. That could impact what is named in the HIPAA-ACA Regulation for Attachments, and therefore impact the use of C-CDA. The stakeholders in the industry may be faced with implementing multiple versions of C-CDA. We would like to open this for discussion and ask for help in finding a different solution
    • there was agreement this would be of concern

Project Scope votes

  • Reminder to WGs that PSS must be forwarded to the PMO AND to the DESD Co-chairs for e-vote. If you only send to the PMO there may be delays in getting the PSS out for e-vote.
CBCC - Data Provenance PSS

File:HL7 Project Scope Statement Provenance Final.doc

    • This PSS has been approved by US Realm Task Force
    • It is Unknown at this point if there are WGs that will be co-sponsoring - maybe Security WG and/or SDWG
    • update project to mention additional projects
    • this is an S&I project that is being brought forward
    • should be clinicians involved via Data Provenance WG at S&I - suggested that this be added
    • This PSS was tabled pending updates and will be submitted for e-vote prior to deadline for this cycle
Patient Care - Allergy and Intolerance Terminology PSS

PC Allergy and Intolerance Terminology PSS

  • WG Health and PBS metrics - OK
  • It was moved by Floyd Eisenberg (CQI) - seconded by Ken Pool (PHER) to approve the PSS pending changes to confirm the MOU with IHTSDO and to add the date of approval by the co-sponsoring WG. 15/0/0 - Carried
Patient Care - FHIR Resources and Profile

Doodle Poll link

Updated Version of PSS

  • WG Health and PBS metrics - OK
  • it was moved by Ken Pool (PHER) - seconded by Floyd Eisenberg (CQI) to approve the Patient Care PSS - 15/0/0 Carried
Health Care Devices: PSS

Health Care Devices FHIR Resource PSS

  • Moved by Todd Cooper (HCD) - seconded by Ken Pool to approve the PSS pending updates to include the relationship with the FHIR team and the addition of a deliverable and target date for the creation of the profile(s). 15/0/0 - Carried

DESD Governance

  • Reminder to WGs to ensure that DMP, Mission and Charter and SWOT are reviewed every 3 years
    • DMP and SWOT can be emailed directly to Lynn (HQ)
    • Mission and Charter must be approved by the Steering Division - please forward to DESD Co-chairs for e-vote

Supporting Documents

  • See links above - hard copies will not be provided


  • Motion to adjourn - Ken Pool (PHER)/Patty Craig (CQI) - Carried (15/0/0)

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items