2013-05-06 TSC WGM Minutes

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Day Date ' Time Icon Event Chair Scribe Room
Monday 6 May 2013 AM Q1
Q2
PM Q3
Q4
Q5 Business med.gif TSC Monday Co-Chairs Dinner/Meeting
Austin Kreisler Lynn Laakso Capitol Ballroom South and Center
- - - Collect food/drink from buffet
TSC Co-chairs Dinner
17:30 - 17:40 Welcome, sponsor introduction and TSC Chair Report Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair
17:40 - 17:50 Update from HQ

- Reminders:


New co-chair training – Th 7am – Room Atlanta 2

Karen Van Hentenryck
17:50 – 18:00 CTO Report John Quinn
18:00 – 18:10 Ballot Report Don Lloyd
18:10 - 18:15 Methodology and Harmonization Report Woody Beeler, MnM
18:15 - 18:25 PMO, Project Services and PBS Metrics Update Dave Hamill
18:25 - 18:30 Project Management Survey Results Philip Scott
18:30 - 18:40 CMET Presentation Andy Stechishin
18:40 - 18:50 Co-chair training TBD
18:45 - 20:00 Steering Division Meetings

Domain Experts- TBD
Foundation and Technology - TBD
Structure and Semantic Design - TBD
Technical and Support Services - TBD

DESD Georgia 10
FTSD - Georgia 9
SSD SD - Georgia 7
T3SD - Georgia 8

Minutes

Meeting Information

HL7 Co-chairs dinner/meeting

Location: Regency Ballroom

Date: 2013-05-06
Time: 17:15-21:00pm EDT
Facilitator Austin Kreisler Note taker(s) Lynn Laakso
Quorum Requirements Met: n/a
Attendee list at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/7361/10501/2013May_cochairs_attendance_scan.zip


Agenda

  1. Welcome and TSC reports - Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair
  2. Update from HQ - Karen Van Hentenryck, Lillian Bigham
    • Reminders:
      press release forms
      meeting minutes to http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?UploadMinutes
      Updates to Facilitator List
      Rooming needs next WGM
      Draft agendas for next WGM
      New co-chair training – Th 7am – Room: Atlanta 2
  3. CTO Report - John Quinn, CTO
  4. Ballot Report - Don Lloyd
  5. Methodology and Harmonization Report - Woody Beeler, MnM
  6. PMO/Project Services update - Dave Hamill
  7. Project survey - Philip Scott
  8. CMET Presentation - Andy Stechishin
  9. Co-chair training
  10. Adjourn to Steering Division meetings


Minutes

Convened at 5:50 PM

  1. Welcome and TSC reports - Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair presents a slide show
    • Walter Suarez asserts that you should be considered healthy as a WG in the case of CQI, until proven unhealthy. Austin suggests they speak with their Steering Division about it. Russ Hamm draws the analogy of quality assessment in a health care organization.
  2. Update from HQ - Karen Van Hentenryck, Lillian Bigham
    • Reminders:
      press release forms
      meeting minutes to http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?UploadMinutes must be posted by May 24th
      Updates to Facilitator List
      Rooming needs next WGM by May 17th.
      Thanks to Sparx Systems for sponsoring the dinner/meeting.
      New co-chair training – Th 7am – Room: Atlanta 2
  3. CTO Report - John Quinn, CTO
    • John presents a slide show.
  4. Ballot Report - Don Lloyd
    • Don also presents a slide show. Keith Boone requests clarification of the quorum issues as discussed on the cochairs list as it pertained to ITS. He also asks about the measurement of ballot health. Austin reports the TSC is conducting an exercise to evaluate if statistics available will yield some useful information.
  5. Methodology and Harmonization Report - Woody Beeler, MnM also presents a slide show. Normative edition should be out in next two weeks. Jean Duteau clarifies that for the 2014 NE the publication request deadline is 9 weeks after the January WGM.
    • Keith asks if there is progress in taking HL7 modeling structures back into OMG to bring them into off the shelf tools. Cross platform transfers vendor-to-vendor is problematic and the XMI exchange doesn't translate well Woody notes. Visio still allows constraints on the models. J.D. Baker notes that as a board member of OMG he is concerned that the perception exists for lack of exchangeability of XMI. But XMI does not include diagrams, and they are not part of a mode. He would like to work with Woody and AMS to make the organizations work better together.
  6. PMO/Project Services update - Dave Hamill narrates his slide show.
  7. Project survey - Philip Scott discusses the results in his slide show.
  8. CMET Presentation - Andy Stechishin reports that the Tooling Challenge is designed to create a tooling profile for MIF. 22 entrants will compete for the prize awarded by Sparx. CMETs will be submitted with the request to ballot. After the September cycle you will have to include them on the NIB form itself and they will be tracked on the request to publish. Processes are still being documented and information will become available soon.
  9. Co-chair training - Austin shows a slide show for refresher information for ballot reconciliation.
    • Hans comments on the not related status. If a person wants to discuss resolution in person, it is just a request. The WG is not required to honor it.
    • Ioana asks if they submit a word document instead of ballot spreadsheet without characterization of their comments. If it is part of a negative vote on the ballot they are likely to be considered line-item-negatives. This may require training for balloters.
    • Helen asks if you have to individually vote on each negative or if you can do a block vote to approve dispositions as assigned. This is permissible. Hans notes the ballot spreadsheet is used to record the votes for not persuasive etc you can embed the spreadsheet in the minutes.
    • Clarification of quorum requirements yielded recognition that 60% of ballot pool measurement for quorum, is actually 60% of the HL7 members in the ballot pool. Don notes if voters in a prior pool change jobs/employers etc work with Don and Karen to adjust.
    • Hans asks about if substantive changes occur as a result of reconciliation of negatives. You would ballot a normative standard again if substantive changes occur.
    • Don Mon clarifies the use of the recirculation ballot to allow the whole voting pool to review the outcome of the reconciliation and validate either the negative balloter's comments or validate the work group's disposition of the comments. Mark Janczeweski and Keith Boone clarify that you must recirculate a ballot if any negative votes remain after the reconciliation. Lloyd thought you could make substantive change without reballoting if you have permission of the CTO. That is not in the GOM now, John states. That provision used to exist to allow a committee ballot to proceed to a membership ballot Freida notes. Flow chart was suggested by Dale Nelson.
  10. Adjourn to Steering Division meetings at 7:35 PM