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===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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Call to order 11:03 EDT.
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#Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) none.
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#Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
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#Approve Minutes of [[2012-06-11 TSC Call Agenda]] approved 5/0/1 Ron abstains
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#Approval items:
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#*'''Motion: ''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2288/9412/HL7PSS2012_CCHD_IG.doc project scope statement] for ''HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Newborn Screening using pulse oximetry devices for Critical Congenital Heart Defects (CCHD), Release 1 DSTU, '', for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=897 Project Insight #897], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2288&start=0 TSC Tracker #2288]
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#**Ed describes the project. Short time frame noted due to non-controversial content. Woody asks about the combination of normative implementation guides (DSTU to normative) that are universal realm? Helen asks about participation from members of other affiliates, not just a vendor with customers in different countries.  '''Helen moves to table the motion''' and invite PHER representatives come to discuss universality with the TSC next week. Patrick seconds. '''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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#*'''Motion: ''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2289/9413/HL7PSS2012_EHDI_IG.doc project scope statement] for ''HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Early Hearing Detection and Intervention (EHDI), Release 1 DSTU'', for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=898 Project Insight #898], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2289&start=0 TSC Tracker #2289].  '''Helen moves to table the motion''' and invite PHER representatives come to discuss universality with the TSC next week. Ed seconds. '''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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#*Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2291/9418/Withdrawal_CG_Expression_DAM.doc withdrawal request] for ''HL7 Version 3 Domain Analysis Model: Clinical Genomics; Gene Expression, Release 1'', for CG of DESD, at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=333 Project Insight #333], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2291&start=0 TSC Tracker #2291]
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#**'''Motion: ''' Ed moves and Calvin seconds approval of the withdrawal. '''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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#*Approve *in-committee* the [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2292/9419/HL7ArchitectureRiskAssessmentPSSv2.docx project scope statement] for TSC, cosponsored by ArB, of ''Risk Assessment and Governance for HL7 Architecture Program'', at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=901 Project Insight #901], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2292&start=0 TSC Tracker #2292]
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#**Austin reports that this is a new scope based on the change of the SAIF Architecture program to the HL7 architecture program, whose project scope will also be updated. The goal of the Risk Assessment is to identify areas of high risk where we need to add governance to the organization. A risk profile targets risks identified which must be evaluated for tolerance for such risk, to be addressed in governance points. Ron notes that we already have some governance strategies that are effectively mitigating those risks but risk profile performs discovery and validation of all risk points towards meeting the Strategic Initiatives.
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#**Calvin moves, Ed seconds approval of the project scope. '''Vote:''' Unanimously approved.
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#*'''Tabled Motion: ''' Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2287/9404/HL7FHIRProjectScopeStatementv2012-Pharmacy18May2012.doc project scope statement] for ''Develop FHIR resources for Pharmacy,'', for Pharmacy Work Group, at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=855 Project Insight #855], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2287&start=0 TSC Tracker #2287]
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#**'''Amendment to Motion''' for consideration: to approve the project scope statement for Develop FHIR resources for Pharmacy, for Pharmacy Work Group, noting that henceforth the FHIR Resources identified in FHIR project scope statements be considered starting points for the naming and development of the FHIR Resources. Naming and content of the FHIR Resources will be subject to the FHIR governance process that will be established shortly by the TSC. Ed asks if the TSC is the sole customer of this. That may be the case initially.
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#**Woody asks if henceforth should be changed to "this project and future projects". Woody moves the amendment as described, seconded by Calvin. Austin reminds that this is not a ballot project but to develop resources to be balloted under the FHIR umbrella similar to the V2 approach. Calvin asks if we have a definition of resources versus extensions for people to understand. FHIR has a definition.  '''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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#*'''Tabled Motion: '''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2280/9385/20120507NCPDP-HL7MTMPSS.doc Project scope statement] approval for ''Medication Therapy Management(MTM) Templated CDA'', for Pharmacy WG of DESD, cosponsored by Structured Documents and Electronic Health Records WGs of SSD SD, at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=842 Project Insight 842] and [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2280&start=0 TSC Tracker 2280]. Austin notes he has tried multiple times to find out more about this. Scott has been on vacation. Pat notes she still has a to-do to follow up with him. Sue Thompson from NCPDP posted to pharmacy list today regarding what was happening on the NCPDP side, but she did not respond. Return to table.  Austin notes that NIBs are due this coming Sunday and this is been stuck a few weeks already.
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#Discussion topics:
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#*FHIR Governance Task Force report
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#**Austin reports the intent for the Task Force was to go off and create terms of reference for FHIR governance. They produced the set of documents for the FHIR Governance Board (FGB), the FHIR Management Group (FMG) and a RACI chart. Task force included Core FHIR development team of Lloyd, Grahame, Bo, and Ewout. Woody, Ron and Austin were also on it.
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2F%2Acheckout%2A%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fgovernance%2FFGB%2520Mission%2520and%2520Charter.doc&revision=337 FGB Mission and Charter]
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#***Giorgio asks about the FHIR connectathon; on its wiki page it mentions a few relatively stable resources; implications that it is already defined but the project is still very new. One of the stakeholder groups in FHIR governance is implementers. The Structure is reviewed in more detail. Calvin asks about staggering terms? We'll make appointments based on recommendations by CTO so it's not prescribed.
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#***Helen had shared concerns with Lynn but had to leave the call. Lynn notes that Helen objected to the  the phrase " At least two members must be non-US nationals " and would rather this be "Affiliate Member"... many people have multiple nationalities and it is unnecessary to make this an issue.
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#***Also, regarding 5% for the financial relationship is too low. Was this meant to be 50% and is this an established percentage in other HL7 documents. Discussion ensued. Modifications made. Calvin leaves.
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#***Austin asks that TSC members review the remaining documents. FMG M&C is structured similarly. Please be prepared to vote on that next week. 
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2F%2Acheckout%2A%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fgovernance%2FFGB_DMP_draft.doc&revision=193 FGB DMP draft]
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2F%2Acheckout%2A%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fgovernance%2FFMG%2520Mission%2520and%2520Charter.doc&revision=337 FMG Mission and Charter]
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2F%2Acheckout%2A%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fgovernance%2FFMG_DMP_draft.doc&revision=193 FMG DMP draft]
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#**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fgovernance%2FFHIR%2520Governance%2520RACI.docx&revision=337&view=markup FHIR Governance RACI chart] - seems to be corrupted. It will be sent to the list. It is expected to dynamically evolve as interaction points are defined.
  
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Adjourned 11:59 AM EDT.
  
'''''Please don't forget to hang up from the conference call '' (VOIP users)'''
 
 
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* [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2288/9412/HL7PSS2012_CCHD_IG.doc project scope statement] for ''HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Newborn Screening using pulse oximetry devices for Critical Congenital Heart Defects (CCHD), Release 1 DSTU, '', for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=897 Project Insight #897], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2288&start=0 TSC Tracker #2288]
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* Approve [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/2289/9413/HL7PSS2012_EHDI_IG.doc project scope statement] for ''HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Early Hearing Detection and Intervention (EHDI), Release 1 DSTU'', for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at [http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/projman/searchableProjectIndex.cfm?action=edit&ProjectNumber=898 Project Insight #898], [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=2289&start=0 TSC Tracker #2289].
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*FHIR Governance Terms of reference documents
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*[[2012-06-25 TSC Call Agenda]].
 
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TSC Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Info/Attendees

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

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Date: 2012-06-18
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes/no
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Austin Kreisler . Charlie Mead regrets Ravi Natarajan x Helen Stevens
x John Quinn x Ron Parker x Giorgio Cangioli
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
x Ed Tripp x Woody Beeler x Calvin Beebe regrets Freida Hall
regrets Mead Walker x Tony Julian x Pat van Dyke x Patrick Loyd
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote . tba . obs1 x Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote . tba . obs2 .
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote . tba . . .

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-06-11 TSC Call Agenda
  4. Review action items
  5. Approval items:
    • Motion: Approve project scope statement for HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Newborn Screening using pulse oximetry devices for Critical Congenital Heart Defects (CCHD), Release 1 DSTU, , for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at Project Insight #897, TSC Tracker #2288
    • Motion: Approve project scope statement for HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Early Hearing Detection and Intervention (EHDI), Release 1 DSTU, for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at Project Insight #898, TSC Tracker #2289
    • Approve withdrawal request for HL7 Version 3 Domain Analysis Model: Clinical Genomics; Gene Expression, Release 1, for CG of DESD, at Project Insight #333, TSC Tracker #2291
    • Approve *in-committee* the project scope statement for TSC, cosponsored by ArB, of Risk Assessment and Governance for HL7 Architecture Program, at Project Insight #901, TSC Tracker #2292
    • Tabled Motion: Approve project scope statement for Develop FHIR resources for Pharmacy,, for Pharmacy Work Group, at Project Insight #855, TSC Tracker #2287
      • Amendment to Motion for consideration: to approve the project scope statement for Develop FHIR resources for Pharmacy, for Pharmacy Work Group, noting that henceforth the FHIR Resources identified in FHIR project scope statements be considered starting points for the naming and development of the FHIR Resources. Naming and content of the FHIR Resources will be subject to the FHIR governance process that will be established shortly by the TSC.
    • Tabled Motion: Project scope statement approval for Medication Therapy Management(MTM) Templated CDA, for Pharmacy WG of DESD, cosponsored by Structured Documents and Electronic Health Records WGs of SSD SD, at Project Insight 842 and TSC Tracker 2280.
  6. Discussion topics:
  7. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  8. Open Issues List


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Call to order 11:03 EDT.

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) none.
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-06-11 TSC Call Agenda approved 5/0/1 Ron abstains
  4. Approval items:
    • Motion: Approve project scope statement for HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Newborn Screening using pulse oximetry devices for Critical Congenital Heart Defects (CCHD), Release 1 DSTU, , for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at Project Insight #897, TSC Tracker #2288
      • Ed describes the project. Short time frame noted due to non-controversial content. Woody asks about the combination of normative implementation guides (DSTU to normative) that are universal realm? Helen asks about participation from members of other affiliates, not just a vendor with customers in different countries. Helen moves to table the motion and invite PHER representatives come to discuss universality with the TSC next week. Patrick seconds. Vote: unanimously approved.
    • Motion: Approve project scope statement for HL7 Version 2.6 Implementation Guide for the Messaging of Early Hearing Detection and Intervention (EHDI), Release 1 DSTU, for PHER of DESD, cosponsored by Health Care Devices at Project Insight #898, TSC Tracker #2289. Helen moves to table the motion and invite PHER representatives come to discuss universality with the TSC next week. Ed seconds. Vote: unanimously approved.
    • Approve withdrawal request for HL7 Version 3 Domain Analysis Model: Clinical Genomics; Gene Expression, Release 1, for CG of DESD, at Project Insight #333, TSC Tracker #2291
      • Motion: Ed moves and Calvin seconds approval of the withdrawal. Vote: unanimously approved.
    • Approve *in-committee* the project scope statement for TSC, cosponsored by ArB, of Risk Assessment and Governance for HL7 Architecture Program, at Project Insight #901, TSC Tracker #2292
      • Austin reports that this is a new scope based on the change of the SAIF Architecture program to the HL7 architecture program, whose project scope will also be updated. The goal of the Risk Assessment is to identify areas of high risk where we need to add governance to the organization. A risk profile targets risks identified which must be evaluated for tolerance for such risk, to be addressed in governance points. Ron notes that we already have some governance strategies that are effectively mitigating those risks but risk profile performs discovery and validation of all risk points towards meeting the Strategic Initiatives.
      • Calvin moves, Ed seconds approval of the project scope. Vote: Unanimously approved.
    • Tabled Motion: Approve project scope statement for Develop FHIR resources for Pharmacy,, for Pharmacy Work Group, at Project Insight #855, TSC Tracker #2287
      • Amendment to Motion for consideration: to approve the project scope statement for Develop FHIR resources for Pharmacy, for Pharmacy Work Group, noting that henceforth the FHIR Resources identified in FHIR project scope statements be considered starting points for the naming and development of the FHIR Resources. Naming and content of the FHIR Resources will be subject to the FHIR governance process that will be established shortly by the TSC. Ed asks if the TSC is the sole customer of this. That may be the case initially.
      • Woody asks if henceforth should be changed to "this project and future projects". Woody moves the amendment as described, seconded by Calvin. Austin reminds that this is not a ballot project but to develop resources to be balloted under the FHIR umbrella similar to the V2 approach. Calvin asks if we have a definition of resources versus extensions for people to understand. FHIR has a definition. Vote: unanimously approved.
    • Tabled Motion: Project scope statement approval for Medication Therapy Management(MTM) Templated CDA, for Pharmacy WG of DESD, cosponsored by Structured Documents and Electronic Health Records WGs of SSD SD, at Project Insight 842 and TSC Tracker 2280. Austin notes he has tried multiple times to find out more about this. Scott has been on vacation. Pat notes she still has a to-do to follow up with him. Sue Thompson from NCPDP posted to pharmacy list today regarding what was happening on the NCPDP side, but she did not respond. Return to table. Austin notes that NIBs are due this coming Sunday and this is been stuck a few weeks already.
  5. Discussion topics:
    • FHIR Governance Task Force report
      • Austin reports the intent for the Task Force was to go off and create terms of reference for FHIR governance. They produced the set of documents for the FHIR Governance Board (FGB), the FHIR Management Group (FMG) and a RACI chart. Task force included Core FHIR development team of Lloyd, Grahame, Bo, and Ewout. Woody, Ron and Austin were also on it.
      • FGB Mission and Charter
        • Giorgio asks about the FHIR connectathon; on its wiki page it mentions a few relatively stable resources; implications that it is already defined but the project is still very new. One of the stakeholder groups in FHIR governance is implementers. The Structure is reviewed in more detail. Calvin asks about staggering terms? We'll make appointments based on recommendations by CTO so it's not prescribed.
        • Helen had shared concerns with Lynn but had to leave the call. Lynn notes that Helen objected to the the phrase " At least two members must be non-US nationals " and would rather this be "Affiliate Member"... many people have multiple nationalities and it is unnecessary to make this an issue.
        • Also, regarding 5% for the financial relationship is too low. Was this meant to be 50% and is this an established percentage in other HL7 documents. Discussion ensued. Modifications made. Calvin leaves.
        • Austin asks that TSC members review the remaining documents. FMG M&C is structured similarly. Please be prepared to vote on that next week.
      • FGB DMP draft
      • FMG Mission and Charter
      • FMG DMP draft
      • FHIR Governance RACI chart - seems to be corrupted. It will be sent to the list. It is expected to dynamically evolve as interaction points are defined.

Adjourned 11:59 AM EDT.

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • FHIR Governance RACI chart will be sent to the list..
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items


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