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* press release forms
 
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*Draft agendas for next WGM
 
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New co-chair training – Th 7am – Pecos Room
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|Karen Van Hentenryck
 
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| ||18:00 - 18:10||||PMO, Project Services and PBS Metrics Update||Dave Hamill||
 
 
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===Agenda===
 
===Agenda===
# Welcome and TSC Chair Report - Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair
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# Welcome and abbreviated reports - Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair and John Quinn, CTO
# ArB Report - Ron Parker, ArB Vice-Chair
 
 
#Update from HQ - Karen Van Hentenryck, Lillian Bigham
 
#Update from HQ - Karen Van Hentenryck, Lillian Bigham
 
#* Reminders:  
 
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#*:Rooming needs next WGM  
 
#*:Rooming needs next WGM  
 
#*:Draft agendas for next WGM  
 
#*:Draft agendas for next WGM  
#*:New co-chair training – Th 7am –  Room: Pecos Room
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#*:New co-chair training – Th 7am –  Room: Beluga
 
# Ballot Report - Don Lloyd  
 
# Ballot Report - Don Lloyd  
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# Methodology and Harmonization Report - Woody Beeler, MnM 
 
# PMO/Project Services update - Dave Hamill
 
# PMO/Project Services update - Dave Hamill
# Methodology and Harmonization Report - Woody Beeler, MnM 
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# Electronic Services Updates - Ken McCaslin
# CTO Report - John Quinn, HL7 CTO 
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# Inservice for co-chairs - Charlie Mead, ArB Chair and Thomas Erl
# Tooling - Andy Stechishin, co-chair Tooling WG
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#*'''Realizing and Preserving Intrinsic Interoperability'''
# Open Mic
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#*:The consequences of building silo-based and single-purpose applications have been well documented. As IT enterprises accumulate an ever-growing collection of disparate systems, the need to resort to fragile integration architectures results in convoluted environments that become increasingly burdensome and risky to evolve. Service-oriented architecture provides a direct alternative to this approach by establishing a method for the design of systems that are inherently compatible with each other. This leads to an opportunity to create a genuine level of interoperability that is intrinsic to each software program we build as a service. This method has been established and proven for years and has successfully realized concrete and measurable levels of intrinsic interoperability. In this session, the world’s top-selling SOA author will provide a tour of the steps and requirements for realizing intrinsic interoperability within solution design and implementation. The session concludes by highlighting the significance of governance controls required to continually preserve interoperability throughout the evolution of services and their underlying architectures in response to on-going business change.
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# Adjourn to Steering Division meetings
  
  
 
'''Supporting Documents'''<br/>
 
'''Supporting Documents'''<br/>
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*http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/6831/9394/Erl_Interoperability.zip
  
 
===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===
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# Welcome and abbreviated reports - Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair called the meeting to order at 5:33 pm and showed a slide presentation
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#Update from HQ - Karen Van Hentenryck emailed a report to the co-chairs list serv with the HQ announcements: Reminders- meeting minutes to http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?UploadMinutes, send Updates to Facilitator List, send Rooming needs next WGM to http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?MeetingRoomRequestForm
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#*:New co-chair training – Th 7am –  Room: Beluga
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# Ballot Report - Don Lloyd sent by email
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# Methodology and Harmonization Report - Woody Beeler, MnM  - harmonization was in March with more content than previously but finished in a couple days. No design pattern harmonization. New ballot schedule has been posted.
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# PMO/Project Services update - Dave Hamill showed a [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/6809/9364/CoChairPresentation-PSWGPMO_2012May_Vancouver.pdf slide presentation]
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# Electronic Services Updates - Ken McCaslin shows a presentation on the latest updates from ES
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# Inservice for co-chairs - Charlie Mead, ArB Chair and Thomas Erl
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#*'''Realizing and Preserving Intrinsic Interoperability'''
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# Open Mic
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#* Woody asks about similarity to Information Management concepts introduced 30 years ago. Communities, as groups of enterprises collaborating because it's the right thing to do, what examples can he offer from the recent experience? Thomas reports that the defense sector e.g. DOD has been very successful. They have moved through a governance framework into semantic web technologies well, with effective results. It may be that discipline is part of their culture… but he hasn't been as involved on the implementation side of late.  Woody notes that organizations didn't follow info mgmt because of unwillingness to perform up front top down analysis. Thomas feels that SOA will work due to the balanced scope.  Domain-based modeling has allowed them to stay away from an all-or-nothing risk and allows them to define a scope that is meaningful which allows them to proceed.
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#*One attendee asks a question on coupling; SOA advocates a reduction in coupling and advocacy as part of the paradigm. Service logic to be decoupled from the API, decoupled from those that consume it. Dynamic media with REST binding solves some problems. Cloud computing has no formal models. Silos can be built in a cloud. Semantic web technology so far has the same weaknesses. It's about layers in architecture and representation.
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#*Presentation will be made available on the wiki.
  
# Open Mic
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#*
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Meeting adjourned at 7:12 pm PDT to the Steering Division meetings.

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Day Date ' Time Icon Event Chair Scribe Room
Monday 14 May 2012 AM Q1
Q2
PM Q3
Q4
Q5 Business med.gif TSC Monday Co-Chairs Dinner/Meeting
Austin Kreisler Lynn Laakso Room: Grand Ballroom AB
- - - Collect food/drink from buffet
TSC Co-chairs Dinner
17:30 - 17:35 Welcome
abbreviated reports:
TSC Chair Report, and
CTO Report
Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair
John Quinn, CTO
17:35 - 17:40 Update from HQ

- Reminders:


New co-chair training – Th 7am – Beluga

Karen Van Hentenryck




Lillian Bigham

17:40 – 17:45 Ballot Report Don Lloyd
17:45 - 17:50 Methodology and Harmonization Report Woody Beeler, MnM
17:50 - 17:55 PMO, Project Services and PBS Metrics Update Dave Hamill
17:55 - 18:00 Electronic Services Update Ken McCaslin
18:00 - 19:00 Inservice for co-chairs: Realizing and Preserving Intrinsic Interoperability Thomas Erl
Charlie Mead, ArB Chair
19:00 - 20:00 Steering Division Meetings

Domain Experts- Jr A
Foundation and Technology - Jr. B
Structure and Semantic Design - Pavilion A
Technical and Support Services - Pavilion B

DESD Junior Ballroom A
FTSD - Junior Ballroom B
SSD SD - Pavilion Ballroom A
T3SD - Pavilion Ballroom B

Minutes

Meeting Information

HL7 Co-chairs dinner/meeting

Location: Regency Ballroom

Date: 2012-05-14
Time: 17:15-21:00pm EDT
Facilitator Austin Kreisler Note taker(s) Lynn Laakso
Quorum Requirements Met: n/a
Attendee list at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/6830/9392/2012MayAttendees_cochairdinnerWGM.pdf.

Agenda

  1. Welcome and abbreviated reports - Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair and John Quinn, CTO
  2. Update from HQ - Karen Van Hentenryck, Lillian Bigham
    • Reminders:
      press release forms
      meeting minutes to http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?UploadMinutes
      Updates to Facilitator List
      Rooming needs next WGM
      Draft agendas for next WGM
      New co-chair training – Th 7am – Room: Beluga
  3. Ballot Report - Don Lloyd
  4. Methodology and Harmonization Report - Woody Beeler, MnM
  5. PMO/Project Services update - Dave Hamill
  6. Electronic Services Updates - Ken McCaslin
  7. Inservice for co-chairs - Charlie Mead, ArB Chair and Thomas Erl
    • Realizing and Preserving Intrinsic Interoperability
      The consequences of building silo-based and single-purpose applications have been well documented. As IT enterprises accumulate an ever-growing collection of disparate systems, the need to resort to fragile integration architectures results in convoluted environments that become increasingly burdensome and risky to evolve. Service-oriented architecture provides a direct alternative to this approach by establishing a method for the design of systems that are inherently compatible with each other. This leads to an opportunity to create a genuine level of interoperability that is intrinsic to each software program we build as a service. This method has been established and proven for years and has successfully realized concrete and measurable levels of intrinsic interoperability. In this session, the world’s top-selling SOA author will provide a tour of the steps and requirements for realizing intrinsic interoperability within solution design and implementation. The session concludes by highlighting the significance of governance controls required to continually preserve interoperability throughout the evolution of services and their underlying architectures in response to on-going business change.
  8. Adjourn to Steering Division meetings


Supporting Documents

Minutes

  1. Welcome and abbreviated reports - Austin Kreisler, TSC Chair called the meeting to order at 5:33 pm and showed a slide presentation
  2. Update from HQ - Karen Van Hentenryck emailed a report to the co-chairs list serv with the HQ announcements: Reminders- meeting minutes to http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?UploadMinutes, send Updates to Facilitator List, send Rooming needs next WGM to http://www.hl7.org/permalink/?MeetingRoomRequestForm
    • New co-chair training – Th 7am – Room: Beluga
  3. Ballot Report - Don Lloyd sent by email
  4. Methodology and Harmonization Report - Woody Beeler, MnM - harmonization was in March with more content than previously but finished in a couple days. No design pattern harmonization. New ballot schedule has been posted.
  5. PMO/Project Services update - Dave Hamill showed a slide presentation
  6. Electronic Services Updates - Ken McCaslin shows a presentation on the latest updates from ES
  7. Inservice for co-chairs - Charlie Mead, ArB Chair and Thomas Erl
    • Realizing and Preserving Intrinsic Interoperability
  8. Open Mic
    • Woody asks about similarity to Information Management concepts introduced 30 years ago. Communities, as groups of enterprises collaborating because it's the right thing to do, what examples can he offer from the recent experience? Thomas reports that the defense sector e.g. DOD has been very successful. They have moved through a governance framework into semantic web technologies well, with effective results. It may be that discipline is part of their culture… but he hasn't been as involved on the implementation side of late. Woody notes that organizations didn't follow info mgmt because of unwillingness to perform up front top down analysis. Thomas feels that SOA will work due to the balanced scope. Domain-based modeling has allowed them to stay away from an all-or-nothing risk and allows them to define a scope that is meaningful which allows them to proceed.
    • One attendee asks a question on coupling; SOA advocates a reduction in coupling and advocacy as part of the paradigm. Service logic to be decoupled from the API, decoupled from those that consume it. Dynamic media with REST binding solves some problems. Cloud computing has no formal models. Silos can be built in a cloud. Semantic web technology so far has the same weaknesses. It's about layers in architecture and representation.
    • Presentation will be made available on the wiki.


Meeting adjourned at 7:12 pm PDT to the Steering Division meetings.