2010-03-29 TSC Call Minutes

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TSC Minutes 2010-03-29

HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 124466#
GoToMeeting ID: 165-215-206

Date: 2010-03-29
Time: 11:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT)
Facilitator Charlie McCay Note taker(s) Lynn Laakso
Attendee Name Affiliation Email Address
regrets Calvin Beebe HL7 SSD SD cbeebe@mayo.edu
? Woody Beeler HL7 FTSD woody@beelers.com
? Marc Koehn invited Guest, HL7 EA IP PM marc.koehn@gpinformatics.com
? Austin Kreisler HL7 DESD austin.j.kreisler@saic.com
? Lynn Laakso (scribe, non-voting) HL7 HQ lynn@hl7.org
? Ken McCaslin HL7 TSS SD Kenneth.H.McCaslin@QuestDiagnostics.com
? Charlie McCay (chair) HL7 TSC Chair charlie@ramseysystems.co.uk
? Charlie Mead HL7 ArB Chair meadch@mail.nih.gov
regrets Ravi Natarajan HL7 Affiliate Ravi.Natarajan@nhs.net
? Ron Parker HL7 ArB Alternate rparker@infoway-inforoute.ca
? John Quinn HL7 CTO jquinn@hl7.org
? Gregg Seppala HL7 SSD SD Alternate gregg.seppala@va.gov
? Helen Stevens HL7 TSS SD Alternate helen.stevens@shaw.ca
? Ed Tripp HL7 DESD Alternate Edward.tripp@estripp.com
? D. Mead Walker HL7 FTSD Alternate dmead@comcast.net
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Quorum Requirements (Co-chair +5 with 2 SD Reps) Met: (yes/No)

Agenda Topics

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Accept Agenda –
  3. Approve Minutes from 2010-03-22_TSC_Call_Minutes
  4. Review action items –
  5. CEO Report –
  6. CTO Report - and Fridsma's Presentation
  7. ArB Report –
  8. Affiliates Report –
  9. Domain Experts –
  10. Foundation & Technology –
  11. Structure & Semantic Design –
  12. Technical & Support Services -
  13. WGM Planning
  14. Organizational Relations Committee update (semiweekly)
  15. Discussion Topics:
    • Open Issues List
    • Ballot title change request, CDS would like to change the title as it might better match the ballot contents if the name had "UML Model" removed). This is because the implementation guide contains more than just the UML model. In fact, for this cycle, the main content is content other than the UML model, which we expect will be included in the next ballot cycle.
      • Request to change
        HL7 Version 3 Implementation Guide: Virtual Medical Record for Clinical Decision Support; (vMR-CDS) UML Model for GELLO, Release 1 (1st Informative Ballot),
      • to
        HL7 Version 3 Implementation Guide: Virtual Medical Record for Clinical Decision Support; (vMR-CDS) for GELLO, Release 1 (1st Informative Ballot); logged at TSC Tracker # 1479
    • V2.6 and 2.7 errata for TSC discussion TSC tracker #1523 - There are two options for moving the V2.7 ballot forward:
      1. Publish the flawed document with an errata
        • Publish the flawed document accompanied by an errata that explains the problematic fields, how to use them correctly to maintain backwards compatibility, and noting that they will be corrected in V2.8 (and publish errata for 2.6). If Frank is agreeable to this approach and will withdraw his negative, we can publish V2.7
          • All of the voters in the consensus pool should be advised of the issue. We might want to conduct a re-circulation ballot as a means of advising the ballot pool of the errata solution and letting them vote on whether that is an acceptable resolution.
        • If Frank is not agreeable to this approach and won’t withdraw his negative, we will conduct a re-circulation ballot that acknowledges the problem described by the outstanding negative but offers up the errata as the solution. If this ballot passes, we can publish V2.7. If this ballot does not pass, we will have to correct the flaws and conduct another normative ballot.
      2. Correct the flaws now and conduct another normative ballot on 2.7 and publish errata for 2.6.
    • HL7 Security Considerations - Cookbook, at TSC Tracker # 1513


Supporting Documents

  1. Fridsma's Presentation - http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/5543/7074/Fridsma_IS_framework_for_HITSC.ppt, or http://mycourses.med.harvard.edu/ec_res/nt/75489D65-B131-4010-B11B-68D4198E8C2A/Fridsma_IS_framework_for_HITSC.ppt


Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Visitors:
  2. Agenda:
  3. Minutes approved by general consent
  4. CEO
  5. CTO Report - and Fridsma's Presentation
  6. ArB
  7. Affiliates:
  8. DESD
  9. FTSD
  10. SSD SD
  11. T3SD
  12. WGM Planning
  13. Organizational Relations Committee update (semiweekly)
  14. Discussion
  • Ballot title change request, CDS would like to change the title as it might better match the ballot contents if the name had "UML Model" removed). This is because the implementation guide contains more than just the UML model. In fact, for this cycle, the main content is content other than the UML model, which we expect will be included in the next ballot cycle.
    • Request to change
      HL7 Version 3 Implementation Guide: Virtual Medical Record for Clinical Decision Support; (vMR-CDS) UML Model for GELLO, Release 1 (1st Informative Ballot),
    • to
      HL7 Version 3 Implementation Guide: Virtual Medical Record for Clinical Decision Support; (vMR-CDS) for GELLO, Release 1 (1st Informative Ballot); logged at TSC Tracker # 1479
  • V2.6 and 2.7 errata for TSC discussion TSC tracker #1523 - There are two options for moving the V2.7 ballot forward:
    1. Publish the flawed document with an errata
      • Publish the flawed document accompanied by an errata that explains the problematic fields, how to use them correctly to maintain backwards compatibility, and noting that they will be corrected in V2.8 (and publish errata for 2.6). If Frank is agreeable to this approach and will withdraw his negative, we can publish V2.7
        • All of the voters in the consensus pool should be advised of the issue. We might want to conduct a re-circulation ballot as a means of advising the ballot pool of the errata solution and letting them vote on whether that is an acceptable resolution.
      • If Frank is not agreeable to this approach and won’t withdraw his negative, we will conduct a re-circulation ballot that acknowledges the problem described by the outstanding negative but offers up the errata as the solution. If this ballot passes, we can publish V2.7. If this ballot does not pass, we will have to correct the flaws and conduct another normative ballot.
    2. Correct the flaws now and conduct another normative ballot on 2.7 and publish errata for 2.6.


  1. Adjourned hh:mm am/pm (timezone).
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