2012-10-15 TSC Call Minutes

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HL7 TSC Meeting Minutes

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Date: 2012-10-15
Time: 11:00 AM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Austin Kreisler Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = chair + 5 including 2 SD represented yes
Chair/CTO ArB International Affiliate Rep Ad-Hoc
x Austin Kreisler x Charlie Mead . Ravi Natarajan . Melva Peters
x John Quinn x Ron Parker x Giorgio Cangioli
Domain Experts Foundation and Technology Structure and Semantic Design Technical and Support Services
x Ed Tripp x Woody Beeler regrets Calvin Beebe x Freida Hall
x Mead Walker x Tony Julian x Pat van Dyke . Patrick Loyd
ex officio Invited Guests Observers HL7 Staff
. Don Mon (HL7 Chair) w/vote x Jean Duteau, Affiliate Representative-elect x Brian Pech x Lynn Laakso
. Bob Dolin (Vice Chair) vote x Andy Stechishin, co-chair-elect x Ken Rubin x Don Lloyd
. Chuck Jaffe (CEO) vote . . . .

Agenda

Housekeeping

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests)
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler
  3. Approve Minutes

Governance

  1. Approval items:
  2. Discussion topics:

Management

  1. Review action items –
    • Calvin can try to contact rep from Qualibria on CCOW WG participation interest.
    • Tony will address with InM on absorbing CCOW.
  2. Approval items:
  3. Discussion topics:
    • GOM Revision cycle 1209 peer review items - review GOC disposition of TSC request on Appeal WG name change
  4. Reports: (attach written reports below from Steering Divisions et al.)
  5. Open Issues List


Supporting Documents

  • See links

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Call to order 11:03 AM

  1. Introduction of visitors (including declaration of interests) Brian Pech observing; Ken Rubin on Information Service
  2. Agenda review and approval - Austin Kreisler; Pat alerts the TSC to pending scope statements from SSD SD - approved by general consent
  3. Approve Minutes of 2012-10-08 TSC Call Agenda unanimously approved.

Management

  1. Review action items –
    • Calvin can try to contact rep from Qualibria on CCOW WG participation interest. He is not on the call. CCOW has requested space at the next WGM.
    • Tony will address with InM on absorbing CCOW; this is on the InM agenda for October 22nd.
  2. Approval items:
    • Outstanding projects/standards that ANSI has identified as needing clean-up, at TSC Tracker #2365 - see Karen's recommendation
      • Lynn reviews the response from O&O and the subsequent HQ response, that maintains the recommendation that their projects be withdrawn. John's concern with common product model has coordinating work with TC215 WG6 and sponsored by FDA. Ed notes the similar situation with BRIDG in reconciliation with ISO taking over a year. He asks if there is leeway for projects going through multiple processes. Lynn notes that a request for an extension was not received. Woody adds that CPM R1 was published in normative edition. Others note that Work Groups are not aware that extension requests were needed for ANSI. Woody notes that Publishing thought that it was indeed normative. John notes that work is ongoing with WG 6.
      • Austin asks about those that are not joint ISO ballots.
      • Ken Rubin notes that the DSTU can be withdrawn as they are pursuing normative ballot on the service specification. Based on reconciliation comments they went through a name change. We can withdraw the DSTU but the normative ballot will continue.
      • Don joins the call and Woody asks if they ever sent a publication request. They did not have a publication request, they followed the former process from spring 2011 to go through the publishing committee. It predated that process.
      • re: HL7 Version 3 Standard: Common Clinical Product Model, Release 1 - This is published in the 2012 Normative Edition - as later version called Common Product Model CMETs as DSTU which was not identified by Don to notify ANSI. We can withdraw the original Normative project/ BSR8 (but not close the Project Insight #858 to which the CMETs are attached).
      • Woody asks if Structured Docs will be extending DSTUs on some of these. Austin notes that there are issues with several ballots and in the case of HAI there are 9 releases that have different ballot material.
      • Lynn points out that the documents needing immediate action in the top section of the document are subject to TSC withdrawal without the WG submitting a form according to section 14.14 of the GOM.
      • Motion: Woody moves withdrawal of the Structured Document Architecture, Pat seconds. Vote: Unanimously approved.
      • InM notes that Abstract Transport was determined that the ANSI clock has not started but an updated project scope should be submitted. Tony agrees, they have no prior project scope due to the age of the project.
      • Wrappers R2 must be withdrawn, R1 overdue for reaffirmation. Need to reballot R1 as existing standard is expired. Woody will join the next InM meeting is the 22nd at 4 ET.
      • Austin will work with Lynn and HQ to follow up with Work groups on further disposition. We'll report back next week .
    • out of cycle meeting request for RIMBAA of FTSD for November 20, see TSC Tracker 2377.
      • Discussion on the list reviewed on potential for detraction from attendance at the WGM. Andy reports as the originator of the request, and as a RIMBAA co-chair they are conscious of the importance of encouraging implementers to attend WGMs as well. The RIMBAA OOC meetings are one-day all day focused sessions and at the WGM that format would conflict with meetings and education opportunities.
      • Motion: Mead moves and Pat seconds approval. Vote: Unanimously approved.
    • DSTU Publication Extension request of HL7 Implementation Guide for CDA Release 2 - Level 3: Personal Healthcare Monitoring Reports, Release 1 for SDWG of SSD SD at Project Insight # 209, TSC Tracker 2378
      • Seem to be trying to do the right thing to extend the DSTU while trying to go normative.
      • Motion: Woody moves approval and Ed seconds. Vote: Unanimously approved.
    • Informative publication request for Additional Information Specification 0009: Patient Information Unspecified Content (PIUC) Attachment, Release 2, at PI # 218, and TSC Tracker # 2383.
      • Ballot is four years old, just getting to cleaning it up. Motion: Woody moves and Pat seconds approval; Vote: Unanimously approved.
  3. Discussion topics:
    • GOM Revision cycle 1209 peer review items - review GOC disposition of TSC request on Appeal WG name change
      • Discussion of change; Lynn reports that setting a timer on an appeal is more work as HQ staff representative; appeals rarely happen. Suggest we add back in the last sentence of the first paragraph and remove the last sentence of the second paragraph.
      • Woody asks if we would consider this opportunity to appeal a Steering Division decision to approve or deny a proposal to other areas of the GOM.
      • Motion: Freida moves that we submit that as our peer review comment, seconded by John, based on recommendation from staff. Vote: Unanimously approved. Austin will work with Lynn to submit that.
  4. Adjourned 11:58 AM EDT


Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Austin will work with Lynn and HQ to follow up with Work groups on further disposition of the recommendations on Outstanding projects/standards that ANSI has identified as needing clean-up.
  • Austin will work with Lynn to submit our peer review comment to add back in the last sentence of the first paragraph and remove the last sentence of the second paragraph.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • 2012-10-22 TSC Call Agenda
  • disposition of the recommendations on Outstanding projects/standards that ANSI has identified as needing clean-up.


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